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    Heather_C (heather_c@c.im)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 22:32:39 JST Heather_C Heather_C

    _"It has normalized the idea that young men and women are still children in need of constant handholding."

    Today's infantilization of teenagers is a radical and very abnormal change in our society.

    https://www.nysun.com/article/step-back-parents-your-college-student-can-handle-laundry-101
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    In conversation Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 22:32:39 JST from c.im permalink
    • HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 repeated this.
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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 01:41:05 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
      in reply to
      • BlueDot🇺🇦
      • C.IM Administrator :verify:👑

      @BlueDot
      Thanks for pointing this out.
      As the named account has blocked me w/o any inter action, I will counterclockwise both of them now.

      @admin

      In conversation Friday, 05-Jan-2024 01:41:05 JST permalink
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      BlueDot🇺🇦 (bluedot@left-tusk.com)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 01:41:11 JST BlueDot🇺🇦 BlueDot🇺🇦
      in reply to
      • HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
      • C.IM Administrator :verify:👑

      @HistoPol @admin

      While this post may seem innocuous, in context it is not.

      "Heather" has accounts on multiple instances that all consistently advocate for adults having sex with minor teenagers.

      See https://mstdn.party/@Wild_Heather which has a link in the profile pointing to the Heather_C account.

      #CSAM #Pedophilia #FediBlock

      In conversation Friday, 05-Jan-2024 01:41:11 JST permalink

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        Wild_Heather (@Wild_Heather@mstdn.party)
        95 Posts, 96 Following, 46 Followers · (I'm not a bot, but some of my posts are scheduled for times when I'm at work or asleep.) "Hmm. This person doesn't think we should burn the witch. She's probably a witch herself. Why else would she defend a witch?" Links to me on other sites: https://linksta.cc/@Heather_860
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      Mina (mina@berlin.social)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 04:15:08 JST Mina Mina
      in reply to
      • BlueDot🇺🇦
      • HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
      • C.IM Administrator :verify:👑

      @BlueDot

      biology and social realities.

      One might or not agree with this position, but it is a fact that most countries do not put this age at 18 (not even most US states).

      E.g. in Switzerland, the UK and Canada, it is 16, in France, Sweden and Uruguay, it is 15, whilst in Germany, Italy, Austria and Brazil it is 14.

      Advocating for a lower age for sexual maturity than 18, is in itself, definitely not "pedophilia".

      I am all for banning all kind of

      2/?

      @HistoPol @admin

      In conversation Friday, 05-Jan-2024 04:15:08 JST permalink
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      Mina (mina@berlin.social)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 04:15:10 JST Mina Mina
      in reply to
      • BlueDot🇺🇦
      • HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
      • C.IM Administrator :verify:👑

      @BlueDot

      "Heather" is actually a guy (he makes no secret of it, though he doesn't advertise it).

      Whilst the content might seem problematic, I haven't seen him advocating for child abuse.

      What he is talking about is that, the age for sexual maturity, i.e. the right of a person to engage in consensual sexual activities with whomever they chose, is determined by a social consensus, and namely that putting this age at 18, is not in accordance with

      1/?

      @HistoPol @admin

      In conversation Friday, 05-Jan-2024 04:15:10 JST permalink
      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 repeated this.
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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 04:27:32 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
      in reply to
      • BlueDot🇺🇦
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      • Mina

      @mina

      Thank you for your thoutful posts, Mina.

      I tried ckecking the Wild Heathercaccountcright away, but despite Heather C's follow request, I had already been blocked right after
      @BlueDot's warning. I never had any prior contact with the Wild account.
      This speaks of bad intent for me. I'm not a court and in the case of potential child abuse, I'd rather err on the safe side if it is a handle unknown to me.

      That said, I agree with your analysis.
      If sex b/w 14 ...
      @admin

      In conversation Friday, 05-Jan-2024 04:27:32 JST permalink
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      Mina (mina@berlin.social)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 04:27:34 JST Mina Mina
      in reply to
      • BlueDot🇺🇦
      • HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
      • C.IM Administrator :verify:👑

      @BlueDot

      You are probably right about his intentions.

      The question is, whether he leaves the grounds of what and how it is acceptable to say in a liberal society.

      I don't see the limits of the acceptable clearly broken (you do, and that's fine).

      We can't judge people on character, only by their deeds. I think.

      @HistoPol @admin

      In conversation Friday, 05-Jan-2024 04:27:34 JST permalink
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      BlueDot🇺🇦 (bluedot@left-tusk.com)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 04:27:36 JST BlueDot🇺🇦 BlueDot🇺🇦
      in reply to
      • HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
      • C.IM Administrator :verify:👑
      • Mina

      @mina

      Call me a cynic. He talks exactly as if he is trying to move the window of acceptable public discourse on the subject of child sexual abuse, so that it will be easier for adult men to abuse teen girls.

      I've seen a proper campaign to change the age of #consent, led by experts in child development, social workers, and legal experts. This is not that.

      @HistoPol @admin

      In conversation Friday, 05-Jan-2024 04:27:36 JST permalink
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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 04:44:05 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
      in reply to
      • BlueDot🇺🇦
      • C.IM Administrator :verify:👑
      • Mina

      @mina @BlueDot @admin

      (2/2)

      ...year olds and adults is legal in the instance's country of residence, than it is no legal offense.

      I say a lot of things that would be illegal in Russia, China, North Korea, etc. The globally lowest common denominator cannot be the yardstick. Only the laws governing the instance.

      //

      In conversation Friday, 05-Jan-2024 04:44:05 JST permalink
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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 05:40:20 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
      in reply to
      • BlueDot🇺🇦
      • C.IM Administrator :verify:👑
      • Mina

      @mina

      I can see your point and I might even have agreed. Until last year:

      @BlueDot @admin

      In conversation Friday, 05-Jan-2024 05:40:20 JST permalink
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      Mina (mina@berlin.social)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 05:40:21 JST Mina Mina
      in reply to
      • BlueDot🇺🇦
      • HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
      • C.IM Administrator :verify:👑

      @HistoPol

      As I said: The person "Heather" doesn't interest me too much, as long as he doesn't post illegal or abusive stuff.

      This is, where "free speech" ends for me.

      On the other hand, I believe "Heather" has a valid point:

      Talking about the sexuality of teenagers (he calls them "young adults", I don't) and the legal rules applicable shouldn't be taboo.

      @BlueDot @admin

      In conversation Friday, 05-Jan-2024 05:40:21 JST permalink

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