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   Joshua Strobl :verified: (me@joshuastrobl.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 05:00:16 JST Joshua Strobl :verified:

   • Buddies of Budgie

   My instance has now been suspended from Floss.social. I can no longer share my content via @buddiesofbudgie or look it up on that instance. All for expressing my concerns over the assertions by the admin that someone must be bought out, not care about marginalized individuals, etc. just because one might be interested in using Threads for a wide range of reasons.

   Cool 👍

   1. I deeply care about marginalized individuals and communities.
   2. I deeply care about highlighting the issues that these communities and folks have.
   3. I care about folks having safe spaces where they can engage in productive and insightful manners.

   You know what else I care about? Making sure that I can connect with those individuals on other platforms, share open source, and share the exciting things people are working on with a seriously massive part of the Internet.

   You don't have to choose between supporting various communities and using a social network. You can do both.

   If anything, I would argue that you should do both. You should break down silos and challenge people's dogmas and viewpoints. Do you think we would have gotten as far liberally as a global community if we didn't challenge each other to do and be better?

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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 05:00:14 JST :blobcathug:

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     @me @buddiesofbudgie welcome to the dark side of fedi, we have cookies :ablobcatnomcookie:
     Dont be surprised for beeing added to the shared blocklists since expressing opinions respectfully is highly discuraged
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     Joshua Strobl :verified: (me@joshuastrobl.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 05:07:31 JST Joshua Strobl :verified:

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     • Buddies of Budgie

     @Jain @buddiesofbudgie Happy to get cookies, less about apparently being on the dark side of the Fediverse.

     Like I 100% get people have had really shit experiences with Meta, Instagram, etc. before but are we really going to let a few individuals on a platform of 100M+ ruin the opportunity to actually promote LGBTQIA+ rights, rights for other marginalized individuals, and other important topics?

     There are always going to be racists and shitheads, that shouldn't stop us from trying to educate everyone else who isn't either of those things but rather just lacks experience with those outside of their bubbles.

     P.S. Love the domain name.

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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 05:07:49 JST :blobcathug:

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     @me @buddiesofbudgie i agree, dont take "dark fedi" seriously
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     Jamie (jamie@fedi.jametek.com)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 05:17:52 JST Jamie

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     @me @Jain @buddiesofbudgie Wow. It really makes you feel like anyone can be blocked for any reason at any time.

     I’ve always known there are certain elements in fedi that are just power obsessed and ban-happy, but this is a bit much.

     Well, life goes on.

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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 06:02:26 JST :blobcathug:

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     • Buddies of Budgie
     @BeAware @me @buddiesofbudgie You dont get it. Why does it matter that there is one more collecting data? Fedi is a privacy nightmare when it comes to data collecting, it doesnt matter if Meta do so too and the basic Protocols are built around that...
     Yes i agree that its a bad thing, no its naive that someone belives that one could prevent it
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     BeAware (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 06:02:28 JST BeAware

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     @me @Jain @buddiesofbudgie https://social.beaware.live/@BeAware/111591998349577621

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     Joshua Strobl :verified: (me@joshuastrobl.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 06:02:29 JST Joshua Strobl :verified:

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     • Buddies of Budgie

     @BeAware @Jain @buddiesofbudgie They can data harvest regardless. It is an open protocol. You can always make your posts unlisted, followers-only, or ya know just not say something public that you do that want the world to see.

     I see it as no different than archive.org being used to archive public social media accounts, websites, etc.

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     BeAware (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 06:02:30 JST BeAware

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     @me @Jain @buddiesofbudgie it's about privacy. They openly admitted to data harvesting in their emails to the admins 7 months ago. The admins that agreed to federate anyway are under NDA, probably with a little financial encouragement. The others tell the truth.

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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 06:10:59 JST :blobcathug:

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     @BeAware @buddiesofbudgie @me If you are on fedi you offer anyone willingly all your public data on a standardized API...
     Yeah sure, you can define that for you as stealing but tbh, nobody cares about that definition
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     BeAware (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 06:11:00 JST BeAware

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     @Jain @buddiesofbudgie @me meta and google have the worst data harvesting practices of all of them. There's a difference between them stealing the data, and someone going "here you can have the data". If you don't think so, then the conversation is over anyway.

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     Joshua Strobl :verified: (me@joshuastrobl.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 06:11:06 JST Joshua Strobl :verified:

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     • Buddies of Budgie

     @BeAware @Jain @buddiesofbudgie We all already go "here you can have the data". It is called federation and ActivityPub.

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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 06:14:40 JST :blobcathug:

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     • Buddies of Budgie
     @BeAware @me @buddiesofbudgie every post you send which has the visibility set to public is basically that.
     https://social.beaware.live/privacy-policy
     > Your public content may be downloaded by other servers in the network. Your public and followers-only posts are delivered to the servers where your followers reside, and direct messages are delivered to the servers of the recipients, in so far as those followers or recipients reside on a different server than this.
     What do you think what that means?
     By using fedi you agree to that
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     BeAware (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 06:14:41 JST BeAware

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     @me @Jain @buddiesofbudgie nope, there's nothing on Fedi that says my data can be used by corporations for profit.

     If there is such a thing, I beg someone to post it. So I can get out of this sinking ship before I drown.

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 06:29:30 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @Jain @buddiesofbudgie @me @BeAware GDPR would probably disagree there in practice, because for extra data processing, such as what most people mean by corporation on the internet for a weird reason, they'd probably need user's consent, which they don't.
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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 06:32:08 JST :blobcathug:

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     @BeAware @buddiesofbudgie @me
     I feel like shocking you even more :blobcatevil:
     Do you know how instance blocks really works?
     The standard protocol does have specified that basically everyone can fetch your posts even with an instance block. Mastodon created a setting which you can force that every server needs to authenticate with your instance so you can enforce your blocks. But the default is its turned off since it would mean that other fediservers who are protocol compliant but doesnt know that "mastodon specification" would be left out of federation. I think gargron called it secure fetch, look it up in the configuration docs.
     
     Welcome to the fedi privacy nightmare which most people simply do not understand :ablobcatwave:
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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 06:34:23 JST :blobcathug:

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     • Buddies of Budgie
     @lanodan @buddiesofbudgie @me @BeAware I think its compliant since one does agree that "public" post are public as it says... As i said, its also stated in the default Privacy Documents. I dont think that GDPR would apply whens it comes that a instance shares posts according to the specifications...
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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 06:37:59 JST :blobcathug:

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     • Buddies of Budgie
     @lanodan @BeAware @buddiesofbudgie @me :blobcatlaugh: it looks like @BeAware blocked blob.cat for telling how fedi works
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 06:39:14 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @Jain @buddiesofbudgie @me @BeAware Publicness doesn't matters when it comes to data processing, pretty much like how broadcasting something doesn't magically strips it out of copyright.
     And btw personal data, also sometimes called Personally Identifiable Information (PII) is when it's linked to a person, not whatever telecommunication means are in place.
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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 06:41:04 JST :blobcathug:

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     @lanodan @buddiesofbudgie @me @BeAware sure, but collecting data is not the same as breaching copyright...
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 06:41:46 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @Jain @buddiesofbudgie @me @BeAware Yeah but we all know "data harvesting" is a euphemism.
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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 06:44:35 JST :blobcathug:

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     @skalt711 i just explained that fedi is a nightmare when it comes to data collecting and also wanted to explain how secure fetch works because i get the feeling that 95% of all instances which now blocks thread.net doesnt have turned on secure fetch
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     skalt711 (skalt711@miruku.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 06:44:41 JST skalt711

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     @Jain@blob.cat This guy looks somewhat suspicious. :kitty_gun: So, how Fedi works? (Half-sleeping) :shironeko_wave:

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     skalt711 (skalt711@miruku.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 06:49:32 JST skalt711

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     @Jain@blob.cat Makes sense.
     
     Fun fact: I haven't seen any Threads posts yet :kitty_gun:

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     :blobancap: :blobcattrans: :blobancap: :blobcattrans: :blobancap: :blobcattrans: (allison@hidamari.apartments)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 06:50:13 JST :blobancap: :blobcattrans: :blobancap: :blobcattrans: :blobancap: :blobcattrans:

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     @skalt711 @Jain And if I were you, I wouldn't expect to see them for a good while. It's enough of a sanitized corporate wasteland that nothing of value happens there so in the end nothing of value is lost.
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