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   pettter (pettter@mastodon.acc.umu.se)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Dec-2023 22:30:58 JST pettter

   @researchfairy UK politics as well.

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     pettter (pettter@mastodon.acc.umu.se)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Dec-2023 23:12:50 JST pettter

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     @opendna @holly @researchfairy And in Sweden the far-right racist party was entirely impossible to collaborate for all the parties until the right realised they would never again see power without their support.

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     @holly @pettter @researchfairy A multi-party parliamentary government elected by proportional representation has been in the news recently. The ruling party has less than 27% of the seats and 10 coalition partner parties.

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     🍵 holly (holly@social.v.st)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Dec-2023 23:12:53 JST 🍵 holly

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     @pettter @researchfairy These are not specifically problems with democrats, but problems with a two-party system. It’s impossible to hold either party in a two-party system to account (what are you going to do, vote for the other side?!). It’s inherently undemocratic and allows horrible policies to persist on both sides. And it’s nearly impossible to expand the number of parties once your system has devolved to this state.

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     pettter (pettter@mastodon.acc.umu.se)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2023 22:34:07 JST pettter

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     @Qbitzerre @FrenchPanda @holly Fun fact: Trump got just over 27% of the popular vote in 2016.

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     2¢ (qbitzerre@unbound.social)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2023 22:34:09 JST 2¢

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     @FrenchPanda @holly @pettter if the winner only has 27%, they must get serious about catering to the constituency that voted for the candidate that got 18%, as well as those in the 8% and 7% groups that will coalesce around a future challenger.

     It's not about a single election. It's about how politicians regard the most authentic polls - anonymous voting in elections - if people exercise options to better express their will.

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     Panda Cab (frenchpanda@kolektiva.social)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2023 22:34:12 JST Panda Cab

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     @holly @pettter @researchfairy

     You're right that a two-party system suck, you're wrong in assuming that a more political choices fundamentally changes anything.

     The dynamics are different, the capitalism/neoliberalism and power hierarchy inherent to parties remain.

     The winner just has 27% instead of 54%.