@timorl
I think I’ve spotted the confusion here. All the terms under the LGBTQ+ umbrella are mostly about personal identity, so what people call themselves and want to be called. This is the context in which “queer” very much makes sense, either for people who haven’t yet figured out the details, but know they don’t fit the cisheteronormative default, or for those who did not end up fitting into any of the other boxes fully (plus some political meaning, but that’s kinda separate).
As I said earlier I really dont care what language someone else wants to use. I see no use in my lexicon to have a term that encompases all forms of identity across wildly different categories of gender, sex, sexual orientation, and sexual cardinality. If someone has use for such a word salad of terms and finds it useful they are welcomet o use it.
I on the other hand do have a use for terms with utility for me. Having a term fo sexual orientations that are inclusive, and another for gender expressions has use in conversation, so i will make that distinction, i dont need or expect anyone to emulate me.
If you want to be specific and precise when referring to a group then there are almost always better terms – at least in medical, law, and social contexts, I cannot think of any other relevant ones. The specific division you advocate for here is extremely rarely appropriate anyway – you almost always want to refer to a strict subgroup of one of the groups you described, or to a group that encompasses people from both groups.
If you know a better word that coverts LGBP (all sexual orientations), or one that covers TINC then by all means let me know.
Yes there are more specific terms but all medical and technical terms I can think of are highly specific and do not cover the umbrella my own terms intend to, again happy to hear alternatives.
The specific division you advocate for here is extremely rarely appropriate anyway
I literally cant think of any situation where it is inappropriate, at least not one where the use of the term itself is what is inappropriate (obviously someone can say an inappropriate thing that has that in it)
you almost always want to refer to a strict subgroup of one of the groups you described
Obviously we do have specific terms for when we are talking about a specific subgroup… but it seems quite bizare to me that you would think talking about all sexual orientations collectively is somehow inappropriate, that makes no sense but maybe im missing something here.
or to a group that encompasses people from both groups.
As described earlier combining the groups is to be expected when appropriate.
You seem to be somewhat confused about the gender/sex distinction. In this context “sex” does not refer to just genes
No not confused, I know very well how sex is often misused and misunderstood. I am using sex in its appropriate way here and distinct from gender,this is how scientists, medical professions, and anyone trying to be precise will use it. Yes in casual language we tends to use sex to also mean gender (or some aspects of it) but that has lead to many problems and language I specifically try to avoid due to its problematic nature.
Sex strictly refers to genes. then gender is broken down into primary and secondar where we talk about genitals, breaast, facial hair, etc.. then we have gender expression which also includes behavioral and physical aspects.
In short, no doubt some people use sex to include gender, though we have clear distinctions and need to use them even in casual conversation as it will resolve most of the conflicts I see and go a long way to helping the LGBP+NICT community.
Thus being intersex is purely about sex, regardless of the specific syndrome.
You are just making a semantic distinction here. Yes if you use a version of the word sex that is less descript you can of course come to that conslusion. Since I am using more technically accurate terminology then no, it doesnt work out that way.
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