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anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Dec-2023 20:10:26 JST anime graf mays ?️?
- นาตาลี :bellsystem:
- Dave Rand
sharing this in the event some of you instance admins haven't seen it. i checked ours, he's using the user agent string "unshortenit 0.4.0" and has been hammering at the rate of 5r/s since 01/Dec/2023:00 :28:46 +0000

ive blocked the user agent string and blackholed the ip. apparently this guy @Drand was given grant money to do this and is conducting himself in a malicious manner. perhaps some of that grant money should be given to instance operators

RT: https://nya.social/notes/818c3d1bdb3e20788eb08e25
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  anatil e\x9f\xf0\xbc\xa5n lu\x00l (@natalie)
  
  there is currently a bot inside MIT IP space, address `18[.]4[.]38[.]176`, scanning fedi at large. i have confirmed this with 5+ unrelated instance admins, large and small instances, across mastodon/misskey/pleroma/akkoma. the bot is poorly behaved. i have observed it making repeated requests, multiple times per second, for the exact same paths (the paths being, generally: user profiles, specific posts, and sometimes following links in posts). returning 403s does not stop this activity. one of my domains received hundreds of additional requests despite replying with 403 to all of them. i have also seen it make requests for paths containing html tags - seems like a badly written parser. the purpose of these requests and what data is being gathered is unclear. PTR on the ip returns `sts-drand03.mit.edu`. a quick web search for "mit drand" brings back https://mitsloan.mit.edu/faculty/directory/david-g-rand and his personal website: https://davidrand-cooperation.com/ (note: other IPs in the /24 also have names in the PTR which match up with names of MIT faculty, but only the .176 IP appears to be involved in this activity). seems he's doing research into "misinformation" and "fake news" on social media. he also appears to be on fedi! so @Drand@techhub.social, given this activity is sourced from an IP with your name on it, could you share the purpose of this traffic? what data is being collected and how is it being used? do you plan to respect robots.txt or identify yourself in your useragent? is there a process for instance admins to opt out of this activity other than blocking the source IP?
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Dec-2023 20:10:25 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  - นาตาลี :bellsystem:
  Hit his isp with a dmca notice. He's scraping copyright material. Scraping the whole fucking fediverse is not fair use even if it's being used for academic purposes. 🤷♂️
  
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Dec-2023 20:54:03 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  - นาตาลี :bellsystem:
  Copyright infringement is still a viable angle against scraping. Who owns the right and thereby has standing is typically the issue. Thus, a dmca notice would have to be specific as to what was accessed / copied and those specific items would need to be copyrights held by the person who sends the notice (or on whose behalf the notice is sent). Who owns the rights is often defined by the ToS, for example twitter's tos states that the users owns the rights in their posts, Twitter just holds a perpetual, universal license to republish.
  
  As a counter example, I have scraped sites myself, but when I have, I've targeted specific files in which the operator has no copyright, e.g. vgm files from various video games, though someone else may well hold the rights. Nonetheless, the operator would not have standing.
  
  It's also possible that it may constitute a technical breach of contract, at least in California, if ToS limits the reasons for access and/or prohibits scraping.
  
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  Neko McCatface v2023 :verified::makemeneko: (roboneko@bae.st)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Dec-2023 20:54:04 JST Neko McCatface v2023 :verified::makemeneko:
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  @Humpleupagus @natalie @graf didn't the linkedin case invalidate this line of reasoning? (genuine question, always interested to learn about the state of things regarding copyright)
  
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Dec-2023 20:55:25 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  Good. You know whatever it is, it's not our friend.
  
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  anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Dec-2023 20:55:26 JST anime graf mays ?️?
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  @Humpleupagus @roboneko @natalie I emailed MIT security about it and bcc'd pete
  
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 04:26:14 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  Content Moderation: Gatekeeping the gay shit from our instances.
  
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  Jolly Rancher (not_br549@jollyville.net)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 04:26:15 JST Jolly Rancher
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  He says he didn't do anything, and he's sorry and will stop doing it now. ... yeahhhh.
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  Shadowbroker:nv::pondering_orb: (shadowbroker2135@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 04:26:15 JST Shadowbroker:nv::pondering_orb:
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  @not_br549 @Humpleupagus @roboneko @natalie @graf >How to better content moderation
  People who say nigger are friends. People who don't are not friends.
  
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 04:28:03 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  IDF bitches with huge khazar milkers, right?
  
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  Matty (matty@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 04:28:04 JST Matty
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  Goofy nigga should try scraping himself some bitches
  
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  internetfreak (internetfreak@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 04:28:05 JST internetfreak
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  @matty @not_br549 @roboneko @Humpleupagus @natalie @graf I don't recall to consenting to having my shit scraped
  
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  Matty (matty@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 04:28:06 JST Matty
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  >content moderation research
  
  How about you stay in your lane fuckboi you losers already melt down whenever someone says something "problematic". How much more moderation do you need
  
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  AlabasterBrick ?‍☠️ (alabasterbrick@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 05:55:59 JST AlabasterBrick ?‍☠️
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  I gotta long rope.
  
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  Xeraser ?? | ?? (xeraser@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 05:56:00 JST Xeraser ?? | ??
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  @Owl @graf @natalie @Drand "we need you to shitpost for israel"
  
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  :njp: - kill ✕ owl - (owl@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 05:56:00 JST :njp: - kill ✕ owl -
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  @Xeraser @graf @natalie @Drand So I'm drudging up a lot of information about the guy running this project. He's cited in a STRATCOM journal, does intense research into misinformation, undermines Russian internet research, has an interest in 4chan, he's got a long list.
  
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  anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 05:56:01 JST anime graf mays ?️?
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  @Xeraser @Owl @natalie @Drand dont feel bad, jim who has like 12k followers on here only got hit 575 times. there's something about owl these people like
  
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  :njp: - kill ✕ owl - (owl@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 05:56:01 JST :njp: - kill ✕ owl -
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  @graf @Xeraser @natalie @Drand I'm about to be recruited into some Division shit aren't I :watamelon:
  
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  :njp: - kill ✕ owl - (owl@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 05:56:02 JST :njp: - kill ✕ owl -
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  @Xeraser @graf @natalie @Drand I'M A BIGGER RIGHT-WING DISSIDENT THAN AWW YAWW NIGGAS
  
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  Xeraser ?? | ?? (xeraser@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 05:56:02 JST Xeraser ?? | ??
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  @Owl @graf @natalie @Drand :suicide:
  
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  Xeraser ?? | ?? (xeraser@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 05:56:03 JST Xeraser ?? | ??
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  @graf @Owl @natalie @Drand 454? JUST 454 TIMES?
  It's over. I'm a failed pico-eceleb
  
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  anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 05:56:03 JST anime graf mays ?️?
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  @Xeraser @Owl @natalie @Drand yeah now check out owl
  graf:~$ sudo cat /var/log/nginx/access.log | grep -i 18.4.38.176 | grep -i owl | wc -l 5450
  
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  Xeraser ?? | ?? (xeraser@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 05:56:03 JST Xeraser ?? | ??
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  @graf @Owl @natalie @Drand >mogged by owl
  I'm committing seppuku with broken and sharpened spaghetti
  
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  Xeraser ?? | ?? (xeraser@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 05:56:04 JST Xeraser ?? | ??
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  @Owl @graf @natalie @Drand I wonder how many times I've been scraped
  Do I just ask Graf to check?
  
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  anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 05:56:04 JST anime graf mays ?️?
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  @Xeraser @Owl @natalie @Drand graf:~$ sudo cat /var/log/nginx/access.log | grep -i 18.4.38.176 | grep -i xeraser | wc -l 454
  dont forget to send poast a christmas tithe :)
  
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  Xeraser ?? | ?? (xeraser@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 05:56:05 JST Xeraser ?? | ??
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  @Owl @graf @natalie @Drand Another day, another glowniggerkike incident
  
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  :njp: - kill ✕ owl - (owl@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 05:56:05 JST :njp: - kill ✕ owl -
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  @Xeraser @graf @natalie @Drand I got scraped thousands of times according to graf. It would help these glownigger retards to do the slightest amount of research into the communities they try to fuck with. One of the most socially ostracized individuals, walled off by direct choice and holding a block list of over 9,000 damned souls, probably isn't the best place to start. I don't say anything politically relevant except fuck niggers.
  Niggers ought to go after these eloquent ink and feather ass homies writing Shakespearian epics about it. :catnoears:
  
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  :njp: - kill ✕ owl - (owl@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 05:56:06 JST :njp: - kill ✕ owl -
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  @graf @natalie @Drand @Xeraser
  Check this out.
  
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 07:40:03 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  - Hoss Delgado
  As much as I hate law, and trust me, I really do,* you have to use the weapons available to fight your enemies.
  
  *I do a lot of civil defense work. I prefer private settlements / agreements to public law. I generally believe that people need to solve problems themselves and without daddy government being involved.
  
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  Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 07:40:04 JST Hoss Delgado
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  Copyright law is extremely gay, but wielding it as a cudgel against fags like this is acceptable.
  
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 13:05:47 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  - นาตาลี :bellsystem:
  A photo of a billboard may well violate copyright as a technical matter. Whether there are damages, which is required for standing's injury in fact element, is a separate issue. Nonetheless, this is why you would often see apparel logos blured out on shows like cops back in the day.
  
  A better analogy may be tubi. They allow anyone to watch movies available via their service for free, but that doesn't mean that you can scrape their database and keep copies on your computer.
  
  The fediverse does have one feature that may cut the other way, and that's media proxy, where a server makes and keeps local copies of remote media. There is a counter argument that does align with my tubi example though. By using certain software, like pleroma, Instance operators have licensed their content to be used / copied via media proxy. That doesn't entail a global license to use copyrighted material for other purposes.
  
  Just because I have a poast logo cached somewhere on my server doesn't mean that I can make and sell poast swag or otherwise use the material for purposes other than the purposes of federating poast.
  
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  Neko McCatface v2023 :verified::makemeneko: (roboneko@bae.st)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 13:05:48 JST Neko McCatface v2023 :verified::makemeneko:
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  @Humpleupagus @natalie @graf ok yeah the standing thing makes sense. I'm a bit confused about the copyright claim itself tho because isn't putting something up on a public website (specifically no login required) analogous to posting it on a billboard? so you'd be pursuing someone for (metaphorically) taking photographs of a billboard? not for redistributing said photographs, merely for standing on the street taking them. or am I looking at this the wrong way?
  
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