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   CandyK (lovelylovely@masto.ai)'s status on Monday, 04-Dec-2023 10:27:28 JST CandyK

   This is f*kng ridiculous

   Why do Americans think life was better 50 years ago? - Los Angeles Times https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2023-06-20/americans-nostalgia-1970s-public-opinion

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     People also bought much smaller and cheaper homes for a period there. The whole "pre-built" home craze was around that time and they didnt quite last sadly.

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     CandyK (lovelylovely@masto.ai)'s status on Monday, 04-Dec-2023 10:27:23 JST CandyK

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     @ClaraListensprechen4 @dbc3 Absolutely, My parents bought there home in 1967 in the city of Gardena California until 2012.

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     And many black families too mine being one.

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     Clara Listensprechen (claralistensprechen4@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 04-Dec-2023 10:27:25 JST Clara Listensprechen

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     Of course, but in terms of buying a middle class house, I'm sorry to report that "red-lining" remains alive and well today and in some areas on stearoids.

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     Lord knows it was not good for a whole lot of marginalized people. But there still was a middle class for us straight privileged whites. We bought a house in 1973. Paid for it on my salary as my wife has never worked ouside the home since i graduated from college in 1970 with no student loan debt.

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     Clara Listensprechen (claralistensprechen4@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 04-Dec-2023 10:27:28 JST Clara Listensprechen

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     If any of LA Times' writers are younger than 70 years old, no wonder they find it a mystery. They likely flipped off Boomers instead of paying attention.

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     @freemo @lovelylovely @dbc3
     Well, the "pre-built home" phase began immediately after WWII but wasn't prevalent 50 years ago, I'm afraid.

     But it did ramp back up again with housing developers' "community" house building which morphed into "home owners association" neighborhoods, gated communities and the like. Turns out that the original concept of "ticky-tacky" was good for commercial home builders.

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     They were called prefab homes. Fully made at a factory and just moved in place and plopped down. Very cheap, popular from the early 1960s onward, and fell apart very easily.

     https://builtprefab.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/prefab-housing-estate-post-wwii-600x338.jpg

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     What?

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     @freemo @lovelylovely @dbc3
     Oh, I forgot about those because the terminology I heard used for those was "non-mobile mobile home". Good point.

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     Right we are talking 1950s 60s and 70s. It was at its height in the early 1960s

     That aside, even if you compare to a brick and mortar, a modern day thermostat has more wealth in it than an entire 1950s home.

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     Thats interesting.

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     I had an assignment as a young engineer to test transporting them on railcars. Told them it would not work but the company had a friend in high places in my company.. Built a frame with outriggers to put on container cars. Loaded up one of their modules - a 10 by 40 ft quarter of a house-to-be. Did our standard impact test - let the car roll down a grade and hit a parked car loaded with gravel and brakes locked. Result? see next:

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     It seems like a rather exagerated test to be honest... I mean few things would survive that yet would be perfectly fine on an otherwise normal railway trip..

     Im guessing it was more a safety test or something?

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     @ClaraListensprechen4 @freemo @lovelylovely All we had was a view of the aftermath when we opened it up and went inside. I had to keep myself from laughing since the factory rep was so disappointed.

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     That must have been a cinematic spectacle.

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     Staircase broke free, sailed from one end to the other, taking out everything in its path.