Professor Code
GIMP is currently being ported over to GTK 3.0, which would probably also allow it to work natively on Wayland.
The release schedule for GIMP 3.0 is set to May of next year, but it's going to be tough. So, if there's anything you can do, please do consider helping out.
Aral Balkan
@ProfessorCode Keeping that name says so much about how inclusive the GNU folks are. And none of it is positive.
Is this really the hill you folks want to die on?
Freedom isn’t just about code and licenses. It’s about who we choose to include and who we choose to exclude.
Especially when it’s little gestures we could easily carry out to show folks that we care about including them.
(Assuming the git repository also still uses a master branch… *checks* Yep.)
*smh*
Pimm
@aral Wait, what name?
Aral Balkan
@pimm GIMP.
Aral Balkan
@cpontvieux @ProfessorCode Meaning A: sexualizes a photo editor, thereby putting off those folks who rightly do not want to subject themselves as targets in sexualised environments
Meaning B: ableist slur
Need I say more?
Cyrille Pontvieux
@aral @ProfessorCode include who? The term is pejorative but does not insult a particular category of person, is it?
Aral Balkan
@cpontvieux @ProfessorCode “Don’t like our toxicity? Fork it then and make it less toxic!”
Nice.
Cyrille Pontvieux
@aral @ProfessorCode fork it and make it popular then. Don't forget to make support of it. Good luck
Aral Balkan
@imsnif @ProfessorCode With all due respect, how much harder is it than any of the myriad of technical challenges in creating a freaking image editor?
Some folks in free software will literally reverse engineer bytecode before having to alter their behaviour to become more inclusive and it sucks.
Aram 🌈♾️
@aral @ProfessorCode Respectfully, changing a popular project's name is an extremely hard and arduous endeavor.
I'm not saying I don't think it's called for (I do), but I also don't think we should be presenting it as as a little gesture that could be easily carried out.
The git branch on the other hand...
Aral Balkan
@imsnif @ProfessorCode Not hand waving anything. I spend 100% of my time writing free software. Nothing about writing free software excuses a culture of non-inclusivity.
Aram 🌈♾️
@aral @ProfessorCode First - I am not here to fight.
Second - branding work is hard. Marketing work is hard. We sometimes tend to look down on them as technical people, belittling them in comparison to reverse engineering bytecode and other heavily technical tasks. I don't think that's either beneficial or fair.
I am on your side here - but since inclusivity is also important to me, I implore you not to hand-wave this sort of work and thus its practitioners away.
Aral Balkan
@imsnif @ProfessorCode So if the folks who spend many hours on branding end up coming up with something that makes other people feel unsafe or unwanted then they should be criticised. And instead of feeling defensive, they should look into why that happened, how it can be rectified, and how they can ensure it doesn’t happen again. (Which will likely involve a review of the organisational culture/structure.) Because it’s not about them. They’re not the victims here.
Aram 🌈♾️
@aral @ProfessorCode I spend 100% of my time writing free software as well, and I totally agree with you.
My team also includes people who spend many hours on branding, marketing and community management for said software. They do it for free, out of passion for the art - just like you and me.
They are rightfully offended and feel excluded when their work is belittled. I know this was not your meaning or your intention, but please take a moment to consider this.
Aral Balkan
@imsnif @ProfessorCode No one is trivialising their work. This is what I mean about defensiveness.
Aram 🌈♾️
@aral @ProfessorCode Agreed. Can we also agree that their work shouldn't be trivialized?
Aral Balkan
@imsnif @ProfessorCode You don’t owe me an apology. It’s up to each organisation to decide how big or small such a gesture is. If an organisation decides it’s too big and not worth the effort, then that says a lot. I’ve rebranded organisations and designed marketing campaigns and I write code. For me, regardless of the amount of work involved, it’s a little gesture. We don’t shy away from hard work in any other part of what we do so why should we here?
Aram 🌈♾️
@aral @ProfessorCode I'm not sure what you mean by "defensiveness" in this context, but respectfully, you called this "a little gesture we could easily carry out". IMO that's trivializing, but I'm open to being corrected here. Maybe I totally misread you and owe you an apology.
GNU social JP is a social network, courtesy of GNU social JP管理人. It runs on GNU social, version 2.0.2-dev, available under the GNU Affero General Public License.
All GNU social JP content and data are available under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 license.