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   localzuk (localzuk@ohai.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Nov-2023 10:33:21 JST localzuk

   I find it outrageous and incredibly offensive how often subtitles are censored.

   I've experienced it on broadcast TV. On Amazon. On YouTube. And elsewhere.

   Deaf people do not need swear words hidden. Those of us with hearing loss don't suddenly decide, "Ah, yes, because I can't hear fully, I don't want to experience swearing anymore."

   Stop censoring our content!

   #Subtitles #ClosedCaption #Censorship

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     alcinnz (alcinnz@floss.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Nov-2023 17:08:52 JST alcinnz

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     @localzuk You know, there was device from the late 1980s or early 1990s which used the closed captions to mute swearwords (during which it'd show the subtitles with a euphemism).

     Ironically prudish captions like you're rightly complaining about would break this prudish settop box...

     Not that I see any point in this tech, it comes from the same misguided place...

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 24-Nov-2023 17:11:59 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @localzuk I think the only one where it could make sense is like "f*beep*ing *beep*" but I'd much prefer putting the actual words and crossing them out (given actual text formatting support, not one of those unicode hacks).
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     David Schuetz (darthnull@infosec.exchange)'s status on Friday, 24-Nov-2023 21:53:38 JST David Schuetz

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     • mybarkingdogs

     @mybarkingdogs @localzuk The <foreign> I agree with totally. If other characters in the scene are expected to understand it, caption it “[in language] whatever”. If they’re not, then maybe caption it in the spoken language? If a bilingual hearing viewer can get a leg up on the characters, why couldn’t a deaf bilingual viewer?

     The <untelligible> I think works when it’s truly background speech, not meant to be heard. Often you can’t even hear it on the soundtrack, so the note helps clarify that deaf viewers aren’t missing anything — you see people speaking but you’re not meant to know what they’re saying.

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     mybarkingdogs@mastodon.sdf.org's status on Friday, 24-Nov-2023 21:53:39 JST mybarkingdogs

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     @localzuk ARGH this and the "[foreign]" and "[unintelligible]"

     I'm not Deaf but I often use captions and subtitles to understand more (auditory processing + age and loud music when younger related loss) and seeing this shit makes me almost incandescent with rage.

     Like it's a sign they're definitely not paying the captioner well, using AI captioning, and/or not providing their captioners with a script/employing people who can translate languages