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Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 07:01:06 JST 
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truly omaha was my turning point into a diaper trans -
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@nemesis @mja I've actually had girls like that hit on me before and it's not a good time -
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nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 07:01:05 JST 
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@mja literally you (/j) -
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@nemesis @mja IRC and later Discord, 2017-18 was like some morbid golden age for this kind of stuff -
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nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 07:13:34 JST
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@allison @mja where do you meet people like this -
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@nemesis @mja Yes you are almost aggressively normie by internet standards. -
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nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 07:17:55 JST
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@allison @mja I feel like practically a normie compared to what some people out there are like -
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@mja @nemesis Same honestly I want to see the truly unhinged stuff again -
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Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 07:18:38 JST
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@nemesis @allison i hate what normies im around online i want to be around interesting people again god damn it! -
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@nemesis @mja Well to lightly paraphrase a friend of mine, "you're the only person I'll allow to call me a normie, bc if I *don't* meet your standards for normie, then that would be properly terrifying" -
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nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 07:20:10 JST
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nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 07:27:03 JST
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@allison @mja I guess I don't really mind being "aggressively normie" along most dimensions, I do aspire to coherence and most unhinged stuff is turbulence that clears as you leave the atmosphere -
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nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 07:27:04 JST
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@allison @mja yes, definitely -
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@nemesis @mja yeah for better or worse it's really just the aesthetic of edginess, cultivated edginess is a lot more nondescript than most internet people would like it to be -
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nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 07:35:16 JST
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@mja @allison > im more a connesuir than so unhinged myself
fair enough, e.g. politically I've joked about you being some kind of alt-right-er in the past but in reality you're basically just a centrist -
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Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 07:35:19 JST
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@nemesis @allison to a lot of normies i am lol
im more a connesuir than so unhinged myself
im working on becoming more unhinged again dw
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nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 07:35:20 JST
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@mja @allison idk you don't seem at all unhinged to me -
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Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 07:35:21 JST
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@nemesis @allison i crave the unhinged shit i guess you and i are just built different -
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@nemesis @mja normie-passing when I need to be but very much not normie (that being said, still more normie than many of the folks who have ended up in my immediate orbit over the years) -
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nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 07:40:01 JST
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@allison @mja how normie would you consider yourself? -
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@mja @nemesis Truth be told I haven't done any files on internet people for years. Maybe I should start again. -
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Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 07:44:11 JST
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@allison @nemesis true
you act pretty normie but your very based aroudn u i feel very comfortable aruond you'd be a great fed i bet you are -
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Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 07:44:11 JST
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@allison @nemesis do you have a file on me -
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@rat @mja @nemesis honestly if I wrote down my experiences with the internet far right and all the trans girls I saw there it would probably be enough to turn anyone transphobic sight unseen -
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rat (rat@brain.worm.pink)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 07:47:30 JST 
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@nemesis @mja im transphobic now -
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@hidden @rat @mja @nemesis the same thing that convinces them that they'll be on top in an autistic ethnostate and that juche is the model to follow -
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?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 07:50:06 JST 
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@allison @rat @mja @nemesis What is it about the trans jenner brain that convinces them being a hormoned up twink in a diaper is ideologically compatible with fascism -
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nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 07:50:25 JST
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@hidden @rat @mja @allison the same thing that convinces cis male far-rightists that watching loli 10 times a day is compatible with being a tradcath -
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@nemesis @rat @hidden @mja unironically so true, the one clerical fascist glowie I knew even tried a-logging by saying something like "yeah, loli is one thing, but never ever, and I repeat *ever*, talk to anyone who is into shota" (veiled admission of guilt? you decide!) -
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@mja @nemesis again something I've really fallen off of since my moral crisis a few years back -
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Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 07:53:30 JST
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@allison @nemesis i just collect blackmail material -
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nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 07:56:37 JST
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@allison @rat @hidden @mja I am so glad I have not spent time in far right communities, they seem really toxic -
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@nemesis @rat @hidden @mja best part is that I didn't even meet him in a far right community in the traditional sense, I met him because he was an orbiter of one of the main anime posters on kiwi farms who I befriended because we shared common interests -
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@nemesis @rat @hidden @mja oh without a doubt, same with /cow/, I'm eternally grateful me and the aforementioned anime poster were able to make it out alive -
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nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 07:58:22 JST
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@allison @rat @hidden @mja well kiwi farms is incredibly awful too, total kiwifarmer death -
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@nemesis @rat @hidden @mja you don't know the half of it -
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nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 07:58:33 JST
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@allison @hidden @mja @rat its a community whose whole existence seems basically purely evil to me -
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iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 08:08:00 JST 
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@mja @allison @nemesis :comfystoner: we do suffer a disadvantage where the sociopath only has to consider what benefits them and other people have to consider if what they want is good for others (and what it means to be good) -
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Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 08:08:01 JST
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@allison @nemesis BORING
stop having morals
im a bad person and i've felt SO SO much better mentally since i just embraced it -
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@mja @nemesis you realize what the spectacle thing means, right? "oh, that's interesting of you to say." -
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@mja @nemesis I'm not qualified to pass a moral judgement here so I won't -
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nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 08:11:13 JST
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@allison @mja for people with low self worth and who are prone to feeling self hatred and guilt, explicitly self-identifying as amoral can be a helpful thing. it's helped me in the past and I suspect it helps maija too -
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@nemesis @mja Oh I misread. I'm fully aware that I could fall into that mode again, the question is if it would be worth it relative to the tradeoffs and presently I think the answer to that question is currently no. That being said I've always been a pragmatist on these questions and I don't really believe in moral absolutism as such although I do see something fairly close to it. -
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nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 08:15:53 JST
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@allison @mja yeah, it would be a big mistake for me too to go back to that, just, I do understand where maija is coming from on that -
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?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 08:19:56 JST
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@MercurialBuilding @nemesis @allison @mja No longer identifying with morality doesn't mean you lose your moral drive it just means you detach from the idea of morality and your expectations of yourself adjust accordingly -
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Construction Worker (mercurialbuilding@cawfee.club)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 08:19:57 JST 
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@nemesis @mja @allison seems to me if you say you were amoral you'd lose motivation for everything -
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nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 08:21:23 JST
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@MercurialBuilding @hidden @mja @allison again, if you define morality in a subjective descriptive sense yes, but most metaethics doesn't do that -
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Construction Worker (mercurialbuilding@cawfee.club)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 08:21:24 JST
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@hidden @allison @mja @nemesis is motivation separate from morality? I figured you're motivated to do what you value. -
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Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@5dollah.click)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 08:34:53 JST 
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they are very toxic -
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Sir Inge (ildottore@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 09:04:23 JST 
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@nemesis @mja @allison ME getting accused of being a tankie is the funniest shit I’ve ever seen
I hate the USSR and I am the most vocally anti-government person I know
I just exist as a Jew and get called a tankie for it
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nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 09:04:23 JST
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@ildottore @mja @allison calling you a tankie at least as accurate as calling me an ancap -
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nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 09:04:24 JST
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@ildottore @mja @allison yeah and you're also an annoying tankie who whines about anything that even smells like "antisemitism" -
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nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 09:04:26 JST
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@ildottore @mja @allison I suspect the feeling is mutual 😇 -
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Sir Inge (ildottore@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 09:04:26 JST
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@nemesis @mja @allison Well I’m Jewish so obviously -
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Sir Inge (ildottore@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 09:04:27 JST
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@mja @allison @nemesis I really wish you’d die not gonna lie -
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Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 09:04:28 JST
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@nemesis @allison im a centrist who hates jews -
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nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 09:07:27 JST
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@mja @MercurialBuilding @hidden @allison no, I understand, I have such a connection as well -
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Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 09:07:28 JST
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@nemesis @MercurialBuilding @hidden @allison yes this is true. the connection is within but it's certainly an external force, which has some overlap with me own being
i'm sorry its very hard to explain -
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nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 09:07:29 JST
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@mja @MercurialBuilding @hidden @allison the relevant point is that your connection to (what you call) god is itself a part of you -
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Construction Worker (mercurialbuilding@cawfee.club)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 09:07:30 JST
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@mja @hidden @allison @nemesis Broski you are God how can God guide you, you must guide yourself -
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Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 09:07:30 JST
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@MercurialBuilding @hidden @allison @nemesis you fail to understand. god is within me. yet i am not god in this concious form, i am guided by him still, both from within and externally. i am god as a being not as this concious state. i still need the guidance, even if from within subconcious for as close of an analogy as i could make -
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Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 09:07:31 JST
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@MercurialBuilding @hidden @allison @nemesis only i know
and like a small group of other people, i forget the exact number it'll come back to me, i need to track them down
god will guide me upon them in this world however -
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nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 09:07:32 JST
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@MercurialBuilding @hidden @mja @allison I don't, no. I would say you should purge the whole concept of "objectivity" and "subjectivity" from your ontology -
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Construction Worker (mercurialbuilding@cawfee.club)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 09:07:32 JST
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@nemesis @hidden @mja @allison damn
I figure if one discovers the objective morality then you have the blueprint on how to act in the world -
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Construction Worker (mercurialbuilding@cawfee.club)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 09:07:33 JST
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@nemesis @hidden @mja @allison do I want to open the can of rabbit holes on if you believe in an objective morality? -
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Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 09:16:09 JST
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@ildottore @allison @nemesis i accept a lot of my prejudice is baseless. its a part of me i certainly feel but do not really act on or view particularly justified on. but hey these things dont go away so easily either.
if you're not a zionist i almost certainly dont care about you (in the neutral way) -
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Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 09:27:10 JST
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@nemesis @allison @ildottore sounds about right
a lot of these communists who claim to be ancom adjacent or such are very much so tankies in denial, in the same sense a twitter anarchist will be and defend so much opression for essentially idpol reasons
that whole leftists sphere is absolutely infested with such rhetoric and i could see the roots for sure in a lot of theory and iodeological justifications even if its not so essential a part of the ideologies themselves (outside of the obvious somewhat arbitrary classist idpol) -
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Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 09:27:11 JST
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@nemesis @allison @ildottore is this so?
tankies are far worse than nazis tbh -
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nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 09:27:11 JST
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@mja @allison @ildottore idk if they are an actual tankie but whenever I've argued with nyx about her tankie-ism this person always shows up to defend the tankie side
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nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 09:27:27 JST
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@mja @allison @ildottore yeah, well anyways as a monarchist I don't really care about the differences between different types of commies anyways, they all want more or less the same thing imo and would have basically equivalent effects regardless of which group took power -
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nemesis (asbestos arc) (nemesis@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 09:31:00 JST
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@ildottore @mja @allison when did I complain about you being an authoritarian? I complained about you being a communist
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Sir Inge (ildottore@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 09:31:01 JST
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@nemesis @mja @allison >as a monarchist
Oh my god. Holy fuck. You're beyond fucking parody.
Whining about Jews having power over the West and accusing me of being an authoritarian while literally believing in fucking royal families
Grow some fucking brain cells, or drink bleach, whichever works
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