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    Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 04:36:54 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell

    I’m a reluctant hardware upgrader, but finally got an Apple Silicon machine. And I’m really, really noticing what others have said:

    it’s snappy. Really snappy.

    It’s snappy in a way that raw speed can’t explain. My perfectly fast Intel machine has lots of little pauses and lurches and burbles that are just…gone. Waking, launching things, plugging in the external display, all just poof! happen.

    In conversation Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 04:36:54 JST from hachyderm.io permalink

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 04:39:10 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      Why? Again, it’s not just CPU/GPU speed. It feels like there was some OS resource contention, some gear-shifting, some human-scale try-and-wait timer, that’s now eliminated.

      Anyone have insight into why this is? I’m genuinely curious.

      In conversation Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 04:39:10 JST permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 04:40:56 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      (It is also worth mentioning that on the CPU/GPU front, the M3 Max is just stupid fast.)

      In conversation Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 04:40:56 JST permalink
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      Christopher Mackay 🇨🇦 (tantramar@nojack.easydns.ca)'s status on Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 04:44:50 JST Christopher Mackay 🇨🇦 Christopher Mackay 🇨🇦
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      @inthehands my jump in late 2020 from a Late 2012 MacBook Pro to an M1 MacBook Air was eye-popping. It’s still more than fast enough for editing 4K HDR video in Final Cut.

      In conversation Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 04:44:50 JST permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 04:44:50 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • Christopher Mackay 🇨🇦

      @tantramar Mine was a jump from medium-high-end 2019 Macbook Pro (a fairly fast upgrade cycle for me), and it was •still• eye-popping

      In conversation Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 04:44:50 JST permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 05:58:12 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      Because nobody asked, other quick thoughts on the new M3 MBP vs my 2019 Intel MBP:

      I miss the old machine’s weight (~0.2 kg / 0.5 lbs lighter) and its shape. The curve of the case was so elegant.

      The new keyboard is magnificent, even vs post-butterfly MBP.

      As much as I wanted to like it, I don’t miss the Touch Bar, with one exception: adjusting brightness on multiple displays.

      Dedicated SDXC port: why?? I’d rather have another Thunderbolt.

      The notch bothers me •far• less than I’d expected.

      In conversation Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 05:58:12 JST permalink

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 06:17:21 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      All in all: lovely machine, a pleasure to work on, not without tradeoffs (nothing is), but I’m happy I upgraded now.

      In conversation Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 06:17:21 JST permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 06:35:28 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • Jonathan Wight

      @schwa
      Ah, see, opposite problem here: my daily work life consists of plugging in to half-broken projectors all the time, and so having half-broken dongles in the mix just makes it all miserable!

      In conversation Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 06:35:28 JST permalink
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      Jonathan Wight (schwa@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 06:35:29 JST Jonathan Wight Jonathan Wight
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      @inthehands I use the SD port enough that I am happy with it. I'd trade that HDMI for another tbolt though.

      In conversation Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 06:35:29 JST permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 06:36:53 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • Jesse Morris

      @aubilenon
      I had mine finagled so that it was effectively blank unless I had the fn key pressed.

      I still think it might have eventually succeeded if they’d made it pressure-sensitive (so no spurious touches) and given it haptic feedback just like the trackpad’s. Oh well.

      In conversation Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 06:36:53 JST permalink
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      Jesse Morris (aubilenon@escaperooms.social)'s status on Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 06:36:54 JST Jesse Morris Jesse Morris
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      @inthehands I was about to go on a rant about how much I hate the touch bar, but since I basically turned it to just always show f-keys a couple years ago I haven't turned my computer off by accident at all, and now it's just pointless instead of actively bad.

      In conversation Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 06:36:54 JST permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 06:41:56 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • Jesse Morris

      @aubilenon I did appreciate having two continuous tracks for adjusting the brightness on two monitors. Actually, that’s pretty much the only thing I miss about it.

      In conversation Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 06:41:56 JST permalink
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      Jesse Morris (aubilenon@escaperooms.social)'s status on Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 06:41:57 JST Jesse Morris Jesse Morris
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      @inthehands IMO they should've gone with a mechanical action but OLED keycaps.

      The most ridiculous thing you could do with it as it was is there was an emoji selector function where you ... just swipe linearly through the whole list of emoji. It was completely unusable to the point of hilarity.

      In conversation Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 06:41:57 JST permalink
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      Ron Parsons (ronpar@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 07:02:34 JST Ron Parsons Ron Parsons
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      @inthehands
      How’s the trackpad? For a while it seemed the trackpads were regressing to be almost as bad as the ones on Windows machines.

      In conversation Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 07:02:34 JST permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 07:02:34 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • Ron Parsons

      @ronpar
      It’s lovely. And I am fussy about such things.

      In conversation Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 07:02:34 JST permalink
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      Benjohn (benjohn@todon.nl)'s status on Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 07:03:42 JST Benjohn Benjohn
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      • Jesse Morris

      @aubilenon @inthehands Something I love about the touch bar is it's exactly the kind of thing I think I, and I suspect so many people, might have also got wrong.

      Here's the idea! Tried out! Tried at enormous expense! You can actually buy the bloody thing (I mean – you have to, in fact for a few years) and use it and feel just how completely crap that genius idea you had turns out to be. It's okay – don't thank us.

      The thing I imagine could work is track pad the size of the whole of the beneath the keyboard aluminium chunk, that's actually an oddly shaped iPad. It's a track pad mostly, with haptics, but it's also a piano keyboard, or a mixing desk, or room lighting interface, or a video splicing thing. Or maybe a drawing interface. Or so many f keys.

      Go on Apple! Try my mad idea! Spend a billion on it!

      In conversation Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 07:03:42 JST permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 07:06:38 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • Ron Parsons

      @ronpar
      I would of course recommend trying one out yourself, since I don’t know what things you’re sensitive to. But I find it to have exactly the precision and predictability I would expect from a Mac trackpad.

      In conversation Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 07:06:38 JST permalink
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      Ron Parsons (ronpar@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 07:06:39 JST Ron Parsons Ron Parsons
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      @inthehands
      That’s good to hear! Thanks for providing the feedback as I expect to replace an old laptop soon and I’m debating which to get.

      In conversation Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 07:06:39 JST permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 07:15:10 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • Ron Parsons

      @ronpar
      Pro is a no-brainer for me since it’s my only machine and I mostly use it at one desk or another, but if I traveled a lot, I’d be torn.

      In conversation Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 07:15:10 JST permalink
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      Ron Parsons (ronpar@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 07:15:11 JST Ron Parsons Ron Parsons
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      @inthehands
      I will. Debating between the Air and the Pro and that was one of the things to compare between models.

      And it isn’t being “fussy”, it’s having high expectations 😉

      In conversation Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 07:15:11 JST permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 09:44:32 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • John Wilson

      @crazybutable
      Yeah, I do wonder in particular whether core allocation + different memory model + some kind of reduced IO contention for the drive specifically makes Spotlight cause fewer hiccups. “Oops, gotta wait for mdworker for a sec here” would fit the flavor of many of the minor performance hiccups of the Intel machines.

      In conversation Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 09:44:32 JST permalink
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      John Wilson (crazybutable@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 09:44:33 JST John Wilson John Wilson
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      @inthehands the os optimizes background tasks to run on performance cores, and in many cases, will prevent those low level tasks from running on a performance core.

      If you have a threaded web browser and you are switching back and forth between that and your IDE, and the OS kicks off a check for updates, then spotlight indexing in the background, and who knows what else, the OS tasks will not be preempting your work

      I only notice slowdowns when I run out of ram. Not the case on Intel.

      In conversation Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 09:44:33 JST permalink
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      John Flanagan (jflan@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 10:07:48 JST John Flanagan John Flanagan
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      @inthehands have you tried switching displays resolutions yet? It INSTANT. No brief flicker to black. No jitter. Nothing. Even with an external display attached. It’s such a small thing, but it’s incredibly nice

      In conversation Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 10:07:48 JST permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 11:20:17 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • John Flanagan

      @jflan Yeah. Just plugging and unplugging the external display still kind of freaks me out.

      In conversation Saturday, 18-Nov-2023 11:20:17 JST permalink
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 01:59:07 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • Epiphanic Synchronicity

      @EpiphanicSynchronicity
      This is a good tip, thanks!

      The lack of expandable storage certainly is one of the great failings of the current generation of machines. Likely worth it for the speed tradeoffs, but still…!

      In conversation Monday, 20-Nov-2023 01:59:07 JST permalink
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      Epiphanic Synchronicity (epiphanicsynchronicity@pkm.social)'s status on Monday, 20-Nov-2023 01:59:09 JST Epiphanic Synchronicity Epiphanic Synchronicity
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      @inthehands

      > Dedicated SDXC port: why?

      A lot of pro photographers use these machines, but for the rest of us, Transcend (and possibly others) sells cards that fit flush with the cases of the Mx MBPs and can be used to expand the base storage (slower but fine for less used files) or for Time Machine backups.

      In conversation Monday, 20-Nov-2023 01:59:09 JST permalink

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