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@hidden can you explain to me the metaphysics of ugliness and why soyjack party is a self harm cult like /tttt/?
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@pernia @hidden @tiskaan @Owl @Owl Bit more context: soyjak.party is where the /qa/ soyjak ppl went after they got kicked off 4chan for (ironically) being too transphobic. They're basically responsible for everything around soyjak "culture", the fruits of which I'm sure you've seen posted here and there. In any case, the way this inspires metaphysical ugliness should be plainly self evident.
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@hidden @tiskaan @Owl @Owl @allison you told me she knew >:(
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@tiskaan @pernia @Owl @Owl What's altchan? Are you calling me m'lady or are you referencing Milady? (Only asking cuz Pernia mentioned self harm cult which is a Milady thing)
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@pernia @Owl @Owl What's soyjack party?
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@hidden @pernia @Owl @Owl altchan m'ldy
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@hidden @pernia @tiskaan @Owl @Owl that + doxxing mods, threatening to show them up, I remember a death threat somewhere in there as well, all for the crime of being "tranny lovers" (LMAO)
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@tiskaan @pernia @allison @Owl @Owl Probably ruining every thread by going off topic to scream about trannies
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@allison @hidden @pernia @Owl @Owl giw can you be too transphobic on 4chan lmao
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@tiskaan @pernia @allison @Owl @Owl Then the soyjakers must've done it way harder idk!
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@hidden @pernia @tiskaan @Owl @Owl the soyjak crowd goes harder than anyone, trust me here
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@hidden @pernia @allison @Owl @Owl magatards do that and they are still in the site?
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@pernia @hidden @tiskaan @Owl @Owl you can clearly tell it's made by a soyteen repper, nobody else would be this over the top about it
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@allison @hidden @tiskaan @Owl @Owl the sheer psycosis of this is halarious to me. Plus the effort
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@pernia @hidden @tiskaan @Owl @Owl you're not a 4chan mod so I think you're safe
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@allison @hidden @tiskaan @Owl @Owl nettie, do you think the 'jakkers would dox me for being a trannylover
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@allison @hidden @pernia @tiskaan @Owl trannies should all be cleansed by fire so their ugliness can be removed from the world, as should users of soyjack.party
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@s8n @hidden @tiskaan @allison @Owl kys faggot
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@hidden @pernia @tiskaan @Owl @Owl I'd say it's actually worse, ugliness is a reflection of the self and it's largely imposed *by* the self. By willingly engaging with soyjak content as a true believer all you're doing is mentally poisoning the well so that you act more and more like the caricatures you engage in idol worship over.
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@pernia @tiskaan @allison @Owl @Owl Ugly people make ugly things simple as
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@hidden @tiskaan @allison @Owl @Owl now that you understand the question, can you explain your view to me about this metaphysical ugliness?
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@allison @pernia @tiskaan @Owl @Owl I support this message
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@pernia @hidden @tiskaan @Owl @Owl I appreciate it in about the same way I'd appreciate a deliriant trip, which is to say, morbidly fascinating from a distance, but not something I'd ever want to get entangled with myself.
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@allison @hidden @tiskaan @Owl @Owl probably. I just cant help but appreciate OC as dedicated as this, its high quality, unrestrained, uncorrupted
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@allison @hidden @Owl @Owl @pernia @tiskaan I agree, this is why I don't save or share much content that uses the disgusting ones. I treat ugly images the same as NSFW ones and flag them as sensitive
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@Arkana @hidden @pernia @tiskaan @Owl @Owl almost unfathomably based
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@allison @hidden @pernia @tiskaan @Owl @Owl desu soyjack always felt like a deadly meme. Wojak and Pepe were light and funny, even when making fun of them. Something changed when soyjack was introduced. I’ve often wondered if it was introduced by bad actors, rather than organic, for this reason, but people latched onto it.
Hard to understate how hellish dissident right internet was three years ago. I don’t know what was going on, but it was horrible, and has recovered somewhat.
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@Griffith @hidden @pernia @tiskaan @Owl @Owl I think it's definitely contrived, at least to some extent. But only in a very small way, true believers have done most of the legwork for whoever benefits from these propagandistic subcultures.
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@allison @hidden @pernia @tiskaan @Owl @Owl I notice people who use them heavily often have very retarded opinions.
Usually when one sees them, it’s followed by a willfully retarded take, that’s so retarded it starts to become ironic.
That’s how I eventually used them, but very sparingly. Same for gigachad. And I think most people do as well. They don’t take these memes at face value, and it can be funny like that, but it seems like somethings been lost regardless. The brightness, optimism, innocence has been wiped out.
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@Griffith @hidden @pernia @tiskaan @Owl @Owl Gigachad I can at least excuse since it actually *can* inspire beauty in the right hands but soyjaks simply can't.
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@Griffith @hidden @tiskaan @allison @Owl @Owl i tend to think chuddies are being ironic when they are using lingo. Itd be wierd to try to be serious with the funny terms they use
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@pernia @Griffith @hidden @tiskaan @Owl @Owl At some point, the irony stops being irony and just becomes an integral part of the self. Banality of evil etc etc etc.
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@pernia @Griffith @hidden @tiskaan @allison @Owl @Owl
There is no difference between irony and seriousness to them. They are so irony poisoned that they can only respond to seriousness with an attack. And without seriousness their irony doesn't mean anything. It becomes serious because without a the contrast between ironic and serious the words loose meaning.
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@pernia @Griffith @hidden @tiskaan @Owl @Owl The concept that when it comes to evil, if it's understood in the right context, it can actually be a totally apathetic thing and you can be out of your element with actually understanding what it is that you're doing. While I think Arendt was a total hack for coining it in reference to Eichmann's crimes against humanity, I do think it's an appropriate frame of mind to understand the potentialities irony poisoning (and especially soyjak culture) brings to the table.
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@allison @Griffith @hidden @tiskaan @Owl @Owl what does banality of evil mean
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@pernia @Griffith @Owl @Owl @hidden @tiskaan against Eichmann in particular*
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@pernia @Griffith @hidden @tiskaan @Owl @Owl Main administrator and organizer behind the holocaust.
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@allison @Griffith @hidden @tiskaan @Owl @Owl whos eichmann and what did he do
I feel like i need a philosphy class to understand these memes now