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   Tony Hoyle (tony@toot.hoyle.me.uk)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 20:23:44 JST Tony Hoyle

   • Evan Prodromou

   @evan Inorganic groceries tend to be a bit chewy.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 20:23:43 JST Evan Prodromou

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     @tony yuk yuk yuk

     What do they use for "organic" where you are? "Bio"?

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 20-Oct-2023 22:37:36 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • levampyre

     @levampyre @nclm @tony here's what Simple English Wiktionary says:

     "Groceries are food and other household supplies that you buy in a store."

     https://simple.wiktionary.org/wiki/grocery

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     levampyre (levampyre@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 20-Oct-2023 22:37:38 JST levampyre

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     • nicolas ⁂

     @nclm It's "Bio" in Germany. I'm more confused about "groceries". Does it include the food I grow myself or only the edible products I buy from a store? And does "groceries" include soap and toothpaste or just food and spices? @evan @tony

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     nicolas ⁂ (nclm@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 20-Oct-2023 22:37:39 JST nicolas ⁂

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     • Evan Prodromou

     @evan @tony It’s interesting how different languages/countries have adopted existing words (creating a new meaning for them) to refer to organic produce.

     “Organic” in English, “Biological” (for instance where I’m from, France), “Ecological” (for instance where I live, Denmark). It would be interesting to see others!

     They all work, but there’s a dilution of the original meaning. Something could be “ecological” but not “ecological”, “biological” but not “biological”, “organic” but not “organic”.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 20-Oct-2023 23:10:09 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • levampyre

     @levampyre I'm not sure what you're looking for from me.

     It's a 4-level poll, with pretty broad ranges at each level. I don't think it requires this level of analysis.

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     levampyre (levampyre@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 20-Oct-2023 23:10:10 JST levampyre

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     • nicolas ⁂

     @evan So the food I grow in my garden "organically" reduces the amount of organic food I have to buy in the store. The more I grow myself the less I need to buy. So my percentage of organic groceries goes down, even though I consume almost 100%, or let it be 90% of "organic" food. What about cleaning products, when they are not carbo-hydrates and not "grown" anywhere? Would you still consider them "organic", when they can be decomposed by bacteria w/o detriment to wildlife?
     @nclm @tony

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 20-Oct-2023 23:35:14 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • levampyre

     @levampyre yeah, I'm sorry to dampen your enthusiasm!

     Let's say this: for a more precise calculation, groceries only count as things you buy.

     They're only "organic", "biological" or "ecological" if they are labelled as such.

     And let's say the percentage is by price, not volume or count or weight. So if you buy one Bio apple that's 8€ and 2 bags of conventionally-grown kidney beans at 1€ apiece, that's 80% of your groceries that are organic.

     Do those parameters help?

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     levampyre (levampyre@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 20-Oct-2023 23:35:16 JST levampyre

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     • Evan Prodromou

     @evan Oh, I was trying to determine the percentage of organic groceries I buy by getting a better understanding of the definition of "organic groceries". But you seem to care less about accuracy than I do. So I should probably stop bothering.