100rabbits busts down your door and proclaims, `society will end in ~72hrs`. you look at them both like their insane, but you see them sweating and it's not from soybeans.
they open the back of a 1980s ford pinto and offer you a solution to your komputing needs post-collapse.
you are given many choices, much more than the modeling attached. what is your optimal deck.
you have no limit on budget, however you have 72hrs to build, bootstrap, and stabilise your system preparing for the coming of gozer.
@ins0mniak@dcc@sjw@m0xEE@mia@p@sysrq@jeff@meso this is the end, fren. assume you’re fvcked for internet(s) until some of us in this thread deploy the mesh. until then, put on cuban sneakers, because we’re moving drives around!
comms are hard down. at best you'll have to ring up mia, myself or someone else with high power radio gear to transmit anything.
northrop grumman can't even get their edge sats up.
so you must continue to kompute in such a way that either you're 100% offline, or locked and loaded to batch transmit when you have los with some form of satcom or a blimp with interconnectivity.
Know what I mean? like Truck stops, McDonalds yeah thats open but most normies name their access points like....simple shit. password1 or something. Should take all of a few minutes to snarf a signal.
but lets say komrade threat is ~400km away and you know where he is. you trek the mighty forests for what seems like years. and he's sitting there with this.
Asshole edition: "What kind of deck is this? It looks like...like a 50-gallon barrel of whiskey with several ammo crates riveted to the sides."
Limit on peripherals? Because a stack of microSD cards being available or not changes how much ARM I want to do. I'm gonna assume that I can get microSD cards by the pound with this unlimited budget, plus as many 18650s as I can eat. (Let's say a soldering kit and a solar panel, too.) Assuming we're talking portables only.
Unimaginitively, I think "Pelican case luggable" is a decent form factor.
For the post-apocalypse, redundancy and durability are going to matter a great deal. The MSG has a nice design: https://cyberdeck.cafe/mix/msg . He basically crammed a Pi and a mini-x86 (Core i7 NUC) into the same box. Probably, though, I'd just forego the x86 and emulate it if I run into an x86 emergency, and grab a Turing Pi 2, fill all the CPU slots with Pis, plug some spinning rust into the SATA ports for archival storage, fill up the NVMe slots, leave most of the boards powered off and underclocked most of the time.
The third image up there, "Patchbox OS", the ultra-wide screen? I haven't seen this machine but I have seen this panel: it's an 8.8" Waveshare 1920x480(!!) panel, and I love those. So cram one of those onto the parts manifest, tack on an extra e-ink display. Mount a mechanical HHKB and a three-button trackball, get one that doesn't protrude much: Thinkpad mouse device would be great, but the rubber clits wear out periodically and there is no Fry's after the apocalypse. (There is no Fry's now. We're in the post-apocalypse.)
If I can fit a radio transceiver in there somewhere and some suitable antennas, that would be nearly essential. If we're capped at 72 hours, I think it'd take maybe six, eight hours to transfer my venti arenas, my /home, and my /usr/src onto one of the disks, say I do that in parallel with grabbing all the shit from the CRUX ports repos and slackbuilds. When the dremel gets too hot to continue operating it or I'm waiting for some epoxy or resin to set or I have a minute for whatever reason, slurp source code and docs and datasheets for all the chips on all the boards in the thing, and docs for hardware that is likely to survive the apocalypse (because it was either durable or plentiful). It'll take five minutes to get all of Plan 9 copied over, but pulling down the aarch64 binaries and source for everything, that'll take a minute or two.
All that would be nice, but I'm more or less happy with the DevTerm, so if we're talking "the computer that you take to the desert island" (where the problem is "What's a nice cyberdeck?") instead of "the last computer you will own, maybe the last one you will see" (where the problem is getting as close to luggable supercomputer as possible), I'll just grab a DevTerm. No hinges, that's very nice, low power, lots of connectors. Maybe tack on some accessories: a USB enclosure for a few SSDs, one of those fold-out solar panel/battery combos they sell to hikers, and if I can make a HHKB and external Waveshare panel (IT IS SO WIDE IT IS MESMERIZING) work, then probably throw those in.
Because it runs on everything, like literally everything. It's an OS and programming language that you can bootstrap from memory. Work your way through jonesforth.S and you will be able to see why. It's not like it leaves such an impression on you that you never forget it, it's that once you hear it, it's all completely obvious in retrospect. Forth doesn't feel like a system, it feels like it just *is* the computer. I think there are very few systems that leave that kind of impression.
It's also very efficient. Even on register machines (conventional computers nowadays), it's still one of the most compact ways to represent a program. But you can bootstrap a little Forth on a 6502 or whatever, it will run on the old Z80-ish Game Boy.
And on top of all that, it's a language that's powerful enough that it makes Lisp look different: "Oh, hey, Lisp, that's cool. You guys kind of discovered half of Forth."
@teratology From what I've seen — they just use what they have. They've come a long way from using Apple hardware and proprietary software to using their own homebrew shit. Old MacBooks aren't that bad in terms of durability, I still use mostly old Apple hardware myself — I just don't have a lot of other hardware and it works :marseyshrug: I think they'd gladly switch to something more power-efficient as stable power is a luxury when living on a boat, but right now they are using whatever gets donated to them. Using your own custom shit is fine and dandy until it breaks and you have to obtain parts, which ain't easy when you're living on a boat :marseyemojismilemoutheyes: @dcc@threat@sjw@ins0mniak@mia@p@sysrq@jeff@meso
Yes, they mainly use secondhand hardware. One a thinkpad (the guy) and the girlfriend uses a macbook air 2013. Both run manjaro.
~additional thoughts~ The concept is cute and all and I like what we can learn from the project and permacomputing but lets be for real, their lifestyle isn’t sustainable or realistic. They spend a lot of time docking on mainland because they can’t rely on not having power, etc. They’re hyper individualist and come across and pompous Europeans because they disagreed with the direction the world is going in and decided to isolate and run away to la la land where nobody can touch their bubble. They’re both mentally unwell enough to identify as a fictitious concept while both being in a heterosexual relationship with one another. I sincerely believe that they are more concerned with appearances more than anything if you have read their writings on aesthetics.
> possible, all the while wishing I'd done more burpees instead of sitting on my flabby arse and wondering what the hell I thought I'd be doing with a computer post-collapse.
The wignat dogfucker decides to argue on the internet about whether other people should be discussing computers on the internet. The irony is lost on him.
Kill yourself, you wignat dogfucker. Every time you tag me, it's you showing up in a thread where you weren't tagged to REEEEE about something unrelated. I don't know what, if anything, you do for a living, but people that work with computers like to talk about computers.
@threat@dcc@sjw@m0xEE@ins0mniak@mia@p@sysrq@jeff@meso I would spend those 3 days using the unlimited budget to stack as much food and ammo as possible, all the while wishing I'd done more burpees instead of sitting on my flabby arse and wondering what the hell I thought I'd be doing with a computer post-collapse.
> Asshole edition: "What kind of deck is this? It looks like...like a 50-gallon barrel of whiskey with several ammo crates riveted to the sides."
current cpu-mode is irrelevant. pictures are reference meant to inspire, nothing more.
> Limit on peripherals? Because a stack of microSD cards being available or not changes how much ARM I want to do. I'm gonna assume that I can get microSD cards by the pound with this unlimited budget, plus as many 18650s as I can eat. (Let's say a soldering kit and a solar panel, too.) Assuming we're talking portables only.
narrowed spec to portables only, yes. in collapse you won't have desk with vape rig, 17 monitors, and cans of rockstar.
assume 18650+sd is available, if you know the right person.
> Unimaginitively, I think "Pelican case luggable" is a decent form factor.
it's not an art context, do what's practical.
> For the post-apocalypse, redundancy and durability are going to matter a great deal. The MSG has a nice design: https://cyberdeck.cafe/mix/msg . He basically crammed a Pi and a mini-x86 (Core i7 NUC) into the same box. Probably, though, I'd just forego the x86 and emulate it if I run into an x86 emergency, and grab a Turing Pi 2, fill all the CPU slots with Pis, plug some spinning rust into the SATA ports for archival storage, fill up the NVMe slots, leave most of the boards powered off and underclocked most of the time.
now you're speaking yuri's language. apocalypse-cluster-01 engaged. however keep in mind for +2w/node you can have n100-g12 x86 deconstructed. x3 in pelican case will pull ~15w idle, ~40w peak you have options.
msg build is really well-done. you should also look at experiments `n-o-d-e` is doing
> The third image up there, "Patchbox OS", the ultra-wide screen? I haven't seen this machine but I have seen this panel: it's an 8.8" Waveshare 1920x480(!!) panel, and I love those. So cram one of those onto the parts manifest, tack on an extra e-ink display.
the waveshares are great, assume they are still available as well as eink display as the rockets start coming down. act fast!
> Mount a mechanical HHKB and a three-button trackball,
you had me at trackball :elvis:
> get one that doesn't protrude much: Thinkpad mouse device would be great, but the rubber clits wear out periodically and there is no Fry's after the apocalypse. (There is no Fry's now. We're in the post-apocalypse.)
have you considered lenovo thinkpad keyboard with trackpoint? $20 on ebae. i have one for my pelican case, but it's portable lab, not deck
> If I can fit a radio transceiver in there somewhere and some suitable antennas, that would be nearly essential.
you're only limited by your form faktor. small is not always best.
> If we're capped at 72 hours, I think it'd take maybe six, eight hours to transfer my venti arenas, my /home, and my /usr/src onto one of the disks, say I do that in parallel with grabbing all the shit from the CRUX ports repos and slackbuilds.
assume we all saw this coming, and only the truly paranoid got active ahead of the drop. you have access to a dc, cut out middleman.
> When the dremel gets too hot to continue operating it or I'm waiting for some epoxy or resin to set or I have a minute for whatever reason, slurp source code and docs and datasheets for all the chips on all the boards in the thing, and docs for hardware that is likely to survive the apocalypse (because it was either durable or plentiful). It'll take five minutes to get all of Plan 9 copied over, but pulling down the aarch64 binaries and source for everything, that'll take a minute or two.
time management is essential in the end
> All that would be nice, but I'm more or less happy with the DevTerm, so if we're talking "the computer that you take to the desert island" (where the problem is "What's a nice cyberdeck?") instead of "the last computer you will own, maybe the last one you will see" (where the problem is getting as close to luggable supercomputer as possible), I'll just grab a DevTerm. No hinges, that's very nice, low power, lots of connectors. Maybe tack on some accessories: a USB enclosure for a few SSDs, one of those fold-out solar panel/battery combos they sell to hikers, and if I can make a HHKB and external Waveshare panel (IT IS SO WIDE IT IS MESMERIZING) work, then probably throw those in.
it's a thought experiment, not thot experiment. you are limited only by yourself. interpret as you will, but apex scenario is collapse is here, expect no connectivity for a while, possible threat to life and resources, .gov is armed and streetsweeping. full fvcking dystopia.
devterm is nice, i'd be concerned for parts, but you may not have the same concerns or perhaps procured replacements prior to the end.
> My fucking sides, you know they don’t use soap when they bathe either right? It’s documented on their site
i'm aware, i spoke with them at conference, but perimeter was kept to 3m.
> I’d probably use a pi with a screen and my 60% keyboard layout. I know 100r mainly use macbooks with manjaro.
i think this is very reasonable. 100r is not the absolute nor are they entirely pioneers of these experiments. it's been done and done and done. but they at least share many .nfo on the subject matter.
the 11" macbook air from ~2012? would be good candidate for a trial run at this. it'll boot *bsd/*nix
@teratology Yeah, it's exactly like that. I don't think that it's completely sustainable — they still rely on civilization being there a lot. But it's still light years more autonomous than the lifestyle most live. I don't consider them some sort of leeches for society though — just because they use donated hardware. Well, it's a nice experiment, if it works for them — so be it. But this experiment demonstrates very well how delusional people who say something like "let's get rid of these huge evil companies and just use old hardware" are. We can't remake civilization that way yet — we have no one else, but these evil companies to make our hardware. And this comes from a person who uses computers that are at least a decade old, sometimes much more than that. I'm typing this now on a 2008 Mac Pro, still a capable machine with dual quad core Xeons and 28 gigs of RAM TBH, and I still have a ThinkPad from 2003 (!) — and I sometimes use even that little guy, I've been browsing Fedi from it yesterday. But I know that this hardware was made by evil corpos, they weren't even remotely that evil as they are today, but I still kinda rely on them. Well, there are computers like MNT Reform — I really like it, but such hardware isn't even remotely close to being mainstream. I think some people are being hypocrites — screaming out loud for their right to repair and to modify their hardware, but still buying hardware from the likes of Lenovo or HP instead of supporting smaller hardware makers — we have plenty of them today. A lot of people are being very vocal, but fail to put their money where their mouth is. @dcc@threat@sjw@ins0mniak@mia@p@sysrq@jeff@meso
> screaming out loud for their right to repair and to modify their hardware, but still buying hardware from the likes of Lenovo or HP
Yeah, and that's the only thing that ultimately matters: if everyone says they are dissatisfied but they keep buying, there's no incentive for the company to do anything.
@m0xEE@dcc@threat@sjw@ins0mniak@mia@p@sysrq@jeff@meso I don’t consider them leeches or anything, I just find their extreme ideologies immature, and I think putting your politics into software licenses (like the CoC) limits software freedoms and liberties. They don’t pay anything more than around $600 a month for living expenses, I don’t know what their primary source of income is.
What I do know is that there are people in my home country and many parts of the world who are limited in access to computing, knowledge, or basic internet access. If I wanted to change that, I wouldn’t opt out of participating in society. I wouldn’t buy a boat, isolate myself, create a soapbox on mastodon, and pretend that there’s anything revolutionary about my lifestyle. Especially with most of it is performative to a degree, you know, the part where you pretend that you’re independent from civilization while making use of public wifi at cafes.
~additional thoughts~ The concept is cute and all and I like what we can learn from the project and permacomputing but lets be for real, their lifestyle isn’t sustainable or realistic.
it’s absolutely not realistic or sustainable. but it’s interesting enough to inspire thought.
They spend a lot of time docking on mainland because they can’t rely on not having power, etc.
they have a lot of holes in their work. part of the problem is they are making this more of an art project than something that’s operational.
They’re hyper individualist and come across and pompous Europeans because they disagreed with the direction the world is going in and decided to isolate and run away to la la land where nobody can touch their bubble.
pompous is reasonable. when i met them at conference, it felt very elitist. and i’m .eu citizen, then again i’m trash. i have not reached peak elitism
They’re both mentally unwell enough to identify as a fictitious concept while both being in a heterosexual relationship with one another. I sincerely believe that they are more concerned with appearances more than anything if you have read their writings on aesthetics.
they limit their instance and webring to people who only align with their idealogy and monochromatic/geometric sorcery. i attempted pull request against their repository, but was told my work as not in line with their goals. i suppose game theory and tactical superkomputing doesn’t == nosoap.jpeg
they limit their instance and webring to people who only align with their idealogy and monochromatic/geometric sorcery.
I noticed this esp on mastodon. I also found it ironic they chose to use mastodon because of how resource intensive it is, then I learned that someone else is operating or maintaining the server. Pleroma would be a lot better but I bet the politics or reputation turned them off. They use a fork of masto.
idk why your pull request would be rejected when some of the sites on the webring break the rules, or are bare clones.
it’s absolutely not realistic or sustainable. but it’s interesting enough to inspire thought.
I’ve definitely learned a lot from their projects but there’s still a lot I side eye. Either way I think a collapseOS -like scenario proves how dire the situation is down to hardware manufacturers. I don’t think something like pinebooks, open specifications, or FOSS will do anything, because the rot comes from within the systems in place, and everything is going as intended. It sucks but it’s true, the internet was always a platform controlled, owned, and built by the U$ gov.
> damn I had no idea you experienced that in person that sucks, I would think they’d try to be nicer in person idk.
it's fine, i'm a grown man who can handle people. i just wouldn't sit down with them for a can of old beans or anything.
> I noticed this esp on mastodon. I also found it ironic they chose to use mastodon because of how resource intensive it is, then I learned that someone else is operating or maintaining the server. Pleroma would be a lot better but I bet the politics or reputation turned them off. They use a fork of masto.
i found it odd that they use something so resource intensive as well. mastodon can be detuned and decoupled to be more efficient, but not by much.
re: politics, this is a meme on fediverse. personally i don't care if someone uses pleroma, akkoma, mastodon, etc as long as they're having fun. but for some reason the fediverse has a turf war. there's some very interesting people on mastodon instances, but you almost have to standup a secondary instance on mastodon to connect with them.
> idk why your pull request would be rejected when some of the sites on the webring break the rules, or are bare clones.
likely because i was not able to fully fit into their world. i even mentioned when we met. oh well, i have other repos to pull against.
> I’ve definitely learned a lot from their projects but there’s still a lot I side eye. Either way I think a collapseOS -like scenario proves how dire the situation is down to hardware manufacturers. I don’t think something like pinebooks, open specifications, or FOSS will do anything, because the rot comes from within the systems in place, and everything is going as intended. It sucks but it’s true, the internet was always a platform controlled, owned, and built by the U$ gov.
you have a lot of good points here, fren. my motto is, `fvck the system, build your own`. even if said system requires being coupled tightly to xyz-service.
.gov sips everything. there's no way around this besides encryption and keeping low-orbit
@p The fact that "voting with money" concept seems to be too hard to grasp for the most people is moderately disturbing TBH. This Uber-isation of everything — probably not the best term, but here is what I mean: people expect there to be this bar with five stars for everything. E.g. we don't like "capitalism" (whatever they mean by that) — so let us… No, not build our own communities/products/whatever where we decide for ourselves — let's just whine about it online! So they don't want the corpos gone, they just want them to do a better job — might be a viable strategy, but there are lots of cases when people are fucked over with this approach — they are still given the five star bar — but the backend behind this widget is missing — it's not connected anywhere, there is no real feedback, and yet, they keep giving it one star, and get frustrated when things don't improve despite that — some cargo cult shit. The majority isn't ready to make any sacrifices at all for things to improve in the long term. But not everyone — and this gives room for hope. Some international tech corporations turned to be more evil than they used to be, but there's choice, there are smaller companies that do a pretty good job with hardware, there's free software that is mostly ready to use and there are decentralized alternatives to online shit. Overall it's not that bad! @dcc@threat@sjw@ins0mniak@mia@sysrq@jeff@meso@teratology
> concept seems to be too hard to grasp for the most people
Most people are dumber than you expect, and of the ones that aren't, most of them aren't paying attention. Nothing for it, you know, like it used to frustrate me but it's been like that since forever so it's probably fine.
> they don't want the corpos gone, they just want them to do a better job — might be a viable strategy,
I don't think there's as much conscious intent as you do. You ever ask a child why they did something and they don't have an answer because they weren't thinking about it and you can see the gears turning, trying to answer your question? Or remember someone asking you "Why did you do that?" as a child and you got frustrated because you couldn't answer? And adults do this, that is one of the conclusions you get from the split-brain experiments. Most of the brain is not connected to the conscious/verbal mind in a way that allows the conscious mind to articulate an answer. And not only will your brain rationalize after the fact, but once you have created the rationalization, you will stick to it, you'll act on the rationalization. It's not like this is necessarily bad, either: you get art, people create these brilliant songs or images, but you try to ask the them what something means or why they included something, they often don't have a satisfying answer.
So they're not strategizing, they're just upset about something or another, and if they want to talk about it, they have to articulate it somehow. They blame capitalism without thinking it through. Especially for extroverted people (which is why whining about politics on the internet is more predominant among a handful of political leanings), the impulse is to turn feelings into talking, but then they have to come up with something to say. You do this, I do this, it's a function of how our brains work. (Personally it scares the hell out of me on a regular basis but I try not to spend too much time second-guessing myself: I have lived this long and I haven't been eaten by a lion or drunk anything with a skull and crossbones and the phone number for the poison control center on the bottle, so it's probably fine.) I mean, we're maybe doing it right now: there's the implicit question of why those people do something, what are they thinking, and the "Nothing, they don't have a plan in mind" answer didn't come up so we're rationalizing someone else's actions. If "They didn't have a plan in mind, they're engaged in 'vibe-based politics'" is the correct answer, any speculation about what they were planning is going to be wrong, and if the right answer is no answer but you get invested in an answer, you're going to be surprised later.
> they are still given the five star bar — but the backend behind this widget is missing — it's not connected anywhere, there is no real feedback, and yet, they keep giving it one star, and get frustrated when things don't improve despite that — some cargo cult shit.
I think this is completely accurate.
> there are smaller companies that do a pretty good job with hardware, there's free software that is mostly ready to use and there are decentralized alternatives to online shit.
@IsraelDelendaEst@dcc@threat@sjw@m0xEE@ins0mniak@mia@sysrq@jeff@meso The internet tough guy believes he has made a cutting remark: "That'll show those computer nerds that computers are a waste of time!" he types on a computer to send his words across other computers to arrive on their computers, passing through, in part, the computers that have been assigned the names "poa.st" and "freespeechextremist.com", both of which I have root on. "They should stop touching the computer!" he says to himself, not thinking for a moment that the implication is he'd not be able to communicate using the computer if that happened, and that if this is how he really thinks things should be, he is free to turn off his computer and toss it into the ocean.
there's always a shvt-eating humper waiting to bedazzle us with wisdom and the elusive smell of gunpowder.
they're the same sort of shvt-disturber that has to ask the price of a sale item. what tops the cake for me is how aggro/edgelord they get, yet if you saw them face to face it would the opposite of their internet badbitch routine.
I'm at my goal weight, I'm just aware enough to recognize the huge advantage automation has on our world, especially with things like crops. Those watering pivots need a controller, they have limit switches, try to think beyond just ordering MREs, those also won't be made anymore.
> You'd be kind of fucked without the infrastructure.
You're grasping.
Society collapses, I'll be fine, but we're nowhere near each other so it won't matter to you either way. My profession goes away: fine, I'm sad about that, but presumably dollars also go away. On the other hand, I'll be amazed if a bellicose asshole like you survives the transition period. You know that, which is why you are so invested in arguing about it on the internet.
Arguing about it on the internet is a completely pointless activity on the surface. What are you going to do? All the planes fall out of the sky and the power goes out and we don't ever talk to each other again (thank god) and what? You've somehow improved your odds of survival by telling someone thousands of miles away that they're fucked? There is no reason, except in the case of agitprop (maybe you're a fed) or you're a wignat LARPer and your ego is tied up in it: you want to look impressive to people that you can only talk to because civilization has *not* collapsed, people whose existence would be completely irrelevant to you if society were to collapse tomorrow.
I would like for you to stop bothering to me: in neither the "wignat dogfucker" case nor the "federal agent" case do I want to hear what you have to say and I have nothing to say to you. Thank you. enjoyaids.jpg
@mia@dcc@ins0mniak@jeff@m0xEE@meso@sjw@sysrq@threat Every time I think "Well, that's prod, maybe I shouldn't...", I think about him debugging only when there was too much cloud cover for the telescope to work.
@p Thanks, Pete, that's very reassuring. No, for real, I mean it. Actually I don't think that people are rational or conscious or even self-aware most of the time — that is the only reason I can be more forgiving towards them. What's most often considered manipulative behaviour isn't it IMO — as, like you said, they don't really have any plan and just "act on instinct". Were it not the case, I'd probably consider some people pure evil :marseysmug2: @dcc@threat@sjw@ins0mniak@mia@sysrq@jeff@meso@teratology
> Thanks, Pete, that's very reassuring. No, for real, I mean it.
My inclination is to be paranoid about it, but if it's reassuring to you, then I envy your state of mind, because rationally I can process that it hasn't gotten us all killed yet so it must be fine but there's still a voice in the back of my head going "Hi...your brain is lying to you and rewriting history." and it's my brain telling me that to begin with.
> Were it not the case, I'd probably consider some people pure evil :marseysmug2:
Well, you know, someone that was abused as a child is more likely to abuse a child, and all you've got to go on is the external behavior.
@threat Old HPs look durable too. I think Mini 210 is when they have introduced this form factor first, but they've been using it for a very long time since then, I have 1st gen ProBook 430 which is still in the same vein. It might look somewhat frail at first, but I can guarantee that this thing can take a beating despite its looks. @dcc@sjw@ins0mniak@mia@p@sysrq@jeff@Cocoa@meso
hp used to be bricks. im unsure what they are like now. the hp g-series minis are great for homelab situations and sad people decide to throw them away. yuri will rescue them.
Wrong. They're actually awesome places. I meet a ton of cool people got a hookup for radio amplifiers from an old dude that repaired cars outside his trailer. Local CB also funny as fuck for this reason.
@Cocoa@sjw@sysrq@mia@meso@dcc@m0xEE@ins0mniak@jeff@threat Reasonable. If I were doing a Thinkpad, I'd grab a T60. Last one with steel frame and rubberized plastic, all my T4xx/T5xx laptops got cracks in the case and eventually the backing for the screen broke at the weak left hinge. DevTerm's got no hinge, if it's long-term, I'd like to minimize moving parts.
How much of your infrastructure is self-hosted @p? You strike me as the sort of guy who would've been fine in an apocalypse as you would've had all your stuff setup and configured by hand locally.
> How much of your infrastructure is self-hosted @p?
For FSE, almost all of it. For everything else in my life, I mean, I am connected to the city's water system, the power grid, I don't drill my own oil. I figure I could do my computing fine with a solar panel, some of the machines I have just use a trickle, but computing would be a recreational activity if electricity got scarce.
@p My T43 is all cracked but still works, my T40 is good is new. T43 came to me in a sealed box, T40 wasn't even new when it was given to me, it even had a faulty Ethernet adapter that later got replaced, probably the whole motherboard. Anyway, this makes me think that earlier ThinkPads are even sturdier. And don't even get me started about T30-ies — you could break through walls with those :marseylaughwith: @dcc@threat@sjw@ins0mniak@mia@sysrq@jeff@Cocoa@meso
@m0xEE@Cocoa@dcc@ins0mniak@jeff@meso@mia@sjw@sysrq@threat Ah, before I got the T60 I just bought whatever laptop had a reasonable keyboard and was cheapest. I had a Compaq (and still have it, it still works, but the battery is hosed), a EeePC, an Asus (still in service as a media player). I just stuck with Thinkpads after the T60 but I think the T60 might have been the last good one; the x220 is nice but it's just a laptop.
So at least for now, it's just DevTerms. The thing is pretty reliable so far, and will hopefully be easy to fix if something goes wonky.
I have a lot of half-formed thoughts about "riding the ocean swells of normie imposition" but they're not really useful, just ~how I feel~ about it. What I mean is I think I understand how it feels like an insurmountable tidal force almost.
@mia What? No, it's the opposite. If anything, being not self-aware of one's own actions, makes him less guilty. Same for animals — they are incapable of any planning. But that doesn't make them less dangerous, take a horse for example — this thing can fuck you up in seconds when left unattended. I prefer to stay away from horses. Same goes for certain types of people, like the one who never think about consequences of their actions, bonus points for being confident that it's going to be you solving their problems for them. They might be otherwise nice people and when everything's calm — quite manageable, but you sure don't want to be in a tight spot with the likes of them :marseyshrug: @dcc@threat@sjw@ins0mniak@p@sysrq@jeff@meso@teratology
Ofc. There's a bit of surrendering control here for me, things I am not able to change, and shouldn't even worry about. i.e. "Forces bigger than Terry's Bird's thoughts about what's on screen."
@sysrq@IsraelDelendaEst@dcc@ins0mniak@jeff@m0xEE@meso@mia@sjw@threat You can't, it's too European, you don't even have the right hat. Only Americans are permitted to make a mockery of European traditions, we have a deal where they are appalled by what we're doing and then a few decades later they pretend they invented it.
> If you sucked dick in the woods and no one saw it; is it really gay?
no. because likely if you're blowing dick in the woods, it's because you have a gun pointed at your head or you're out of provisions. either way, it's a means to an end.
sometimes you have to do things that are abhorrent. you can buy mouthwash, thorazine, and therapy sessions ex post facto
it’s yet another thought experiment. i’m unsure who the man would be. these are dark times, frens.
but in the situation the answer is up to the one looking to survive i suppose. i think most people would say i'd rather be shot. but behind the curtain (or in this case, shrub) they’d be porn-star gagging.