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   Cyberfæ :pentacle: (alexandria@anarchism.space)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 10:26:17 JST Cyberfæ :pentacle:

   I can't believe that I chose an industry where giving a shit about what I do and the codebases I work on is regarded as a negative thing and the only metric that matters is how fast you can shit out support for something and not like, idk, any of the other code writing things we have to do

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     Cyberfæ :pentacle: (alexandria@anarchism.space)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 10:26:11 JST Cyberfæ :pentacle:

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     @pry Yeah, the people who say "oh software development is just duct taping things together!" are either astoundingly good at their job, or utterly shite at it, and it's usually the latter. If you don't give a shit about the codebase you will end up mired in shit by your own decisions very fast

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     pry (pry@raru.re)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 10:26:13 JST pry

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     @alexandria it actually sucks so much... it really feels like software engineering isn't treated like a serious engineering effort and is instead just ducktaping kinda working things together

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     Cyberfæ :pentacle: (alexandria@anarchism.space)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 10:26:14 JST Cyberfæ :pentacle:

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     It doesn't help that that it compounds when you have coworkers that shit out absolutely terrible code at a high rate are then not only rewarded, but making the subsequent systems harder and worse to work through

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     Cyberfæ :pentacle: (alexandria@anarchism.space)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 10:26:15 JST Cyberfæ :pentacle:

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     Like in any other industry doing something well and correct is kind of rewarded whereas in tech you are just repeatedly shat on,

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 10:27:19 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @alexandria Yeah, it's why wish I wouldn't be an absolute nerd so I could pick something else instead…
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     Cyberfæ :pentacle: (alexandria@anarchism.space)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 10:28:04 JST Cyberfæ :pentacle:

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     and then when you have to take pull requests from them and they tell you to do something in a completely fucked up way, and not only does your manager not care but holds them with high esteem. So you lose points with your manager and the rest of the staff by going "eh? thats fucked up", everyone acts like you're weird for giving a shit about it, and when you ask a forum of your peers who are in more senior positions, they all agree that the suggested alterations are fucked up and wrong

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 10:39:56 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @alexandria Yeah, it's not a surprise, my brother which used to be in IT got ~40 and is now switching careers.
     
     But like a significant part of the reason I code is because I have to fix/replace other people's stuff to use computers, which aren't a thing you can just toss away anymore.
     I just wish I could capitalize this nicely without also typically ending up within corporations that don't give a shit…
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     Cyberfæ :pentacle: (alexandria@anarchism.space)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 10:39:57 JST Cyberfæ :pentacle:

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     @lanodan Apparently most programmers escape into stuff like woodworking when they hit their 40s and im thinking that well, ive speedrun getting burnout and disability hell so maybe i should speedrun switching careers too to something that doesn't have me like building missle targeting systems for some fuckoff company or like, working next to people who are likely to make me start balding