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    Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Monday, 07-Aug-2023 01:43:50 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow

    Fool Me Twice We Don't Get Fooled Again: There's a crucial difference between federatable and federated.

    https://doctorow.medium.com/fool-me-twice-we-dont-get-fooled-again-20074e311f1f

    #Bluesky #Threads #Mastodon #Fediverse #Federation #SwitchingCosts #UlyssesPacts

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      LeBonk (lebonk@wetdry.world)'s status on Monday, 07-Aug-2023 01:45:58 JST LeBonk LeBonk
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      @pluralistic
      My vasectomy was a Ulysses pact

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Monday, 07-Aug-2023 01:45:59 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      #UlyssesPacts are how wise people protect themselves from themselves

      https://doctorow.medium.com/fool-me-twice-we-dont-get-fooled-again-20074e311f1f

      #FLOSS #CreativeCommons #IrrevocableLicenses #UlyssesWasAHacker

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        Fool Me Twice We Don’t Get Fooled Again
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        There’s a crucial difference between federatable and federated.
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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Monday, 07-Aug-2023 01:46:00 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      How things fail is more important than how they work

      https://doctorow.medium.com/fool-me-twice-we-dont-get-fooled-again-20074e311f1f

      #HardWonLessons #WisdomOfAge #GracefulFailureModes

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Monday, 07-Aug-2023 01:46:02 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      The Wit and Wisdom of #GeorgeWBush (a very slim volume)

      https://doctorow.medium.com/fool-me-twice-we-dont-get-fooled-again-20074e311f1f

      #Facebook #Twitter #Bluesky #Threads #Rugpulls #NonconsensualFuckabilityRatingService

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        Fool Me Twice We Don’t Get Fooled Again
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        There’s a crucial difference between federatable and federated.
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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Monday, 07-Aug-2023 02:51:50 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
      • 受不了包

      @shibao https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/110843615259202738

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        @rysiek@mstdn.social @kas@magnetic-ink.dk a) Medium is federated b) the article is about why I won't set up on +new+, unfederated services, not why I'm ragequitting c) Everything I write - 5-7 essays/week - are open access (CC BY you can republish them, including commercially) at pluralistic.net, and mirrored to Medium. I write one Medium column every week, which is Medium-only, and pays my mortgage. It's OK if you want to skip that column, but I think it's hard to characterize my publishing program as ungenerous.
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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Monday, 21-Aug-2023 22:42:01 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      Talking about federating in the future shows humility and foresight.

      You know what would show more humility and foresight?

      Federating right now.

      https://doctorow.medium.com/fool-me-twice-we-dont-get-fooled-again-20074e311f1f

      #MoneyTalksBullshitWalks #DeedsNotWords #WeDontGetFooledAgain

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      Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Monday, 21-Aug-2023 22:42:03 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
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      • Klaus Alexander Seistrup :verified:

      @kas notice how it cuts off mid-text. That's where the login wall is on medium-dot-com.

      @pluralistic

      In conversation Monday, 21-Aug-2023 22:42:03 JST permalink
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      Klaus Alexander Seistrup :verified: (kas@magnetic-ink.dk)'s status on Monday, 21-Aug-2023 22:42:05 JST Klaus Alexander Seistrup :verified: Klaus Alexander Seistrup :verified:
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      • Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
      @rysiek @pluralistic How about scribe.rip:

      🔗 https://scribe.rip/fool-me-twice-we-dont-get-fooled-again-20074e311f1f
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      Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Monday, 21-Aug-2023 22:42:06 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
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      @pluralistic any way to read this without a medium account? Medium started login-walling articles at some point, it seems.

      Edit: apparently the above could be read as a jab. That was not my intention, apologies it came out this way. It was an honest question.

      In conversation Monday, 21-Aug-2023 22:42:06 JST permalink
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      clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 21-Aug-2023 22:42:08 JST clacke clacke
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      • Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
      • Meow :verified:

      me.dm is a Mastodon server where people with Medium accounts have access. I don't know if they can authenticate with Medium itself or if they just have some way to request a Mastodon account.

      medium.com does not interoperate with the Fediverse and me.dm holds separate content.

      @pluralistic I appreciate that your content is open and on multiple services. I am enjoying it here and on your own site and don't mind that you parallel publish on medium, your strategy is up to you and I'm not contributing even a fraction of what you are doing for the web and the open internet in general. But saying that medium is not a content silo and that it's federating is factually wrong unless I'm missing something.

      @housepanther @kas @rysiek

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      Meow :verified: (housepanther@mstdn.goblackcat.com)'s status on Monday, 21-Aug-2023 22:42:09 JST Meow :verified: Meow :verified:
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      • Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

      @rysiek @pluralistic @kas I see so I am apparently following people that are using medium already and getting their content. Very interesting.

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      Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Monday, 21-Aug-2023 22:42:10 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
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      • Meow :verified:

      @housepanther I believe they use me.dm domain for their instance.

      @pluralistic @kas

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      Meow :verified: (housepanther@mstdn.goblackcat.com)'s status on Monday, 21-Aug-2023 22:42:11 JST Meow :verified: Meow :verified:
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      • Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

      @pluralistic @rysiek @kas Oh that's pretty cool. How do I federate with medium to get their content. Do they have one that is a bot that posts what their authors write?

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Monday, 21-Aug-2023 22:42:12 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      • Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
      • Meow :verified:

      @housepanther @rysiek @kas yes.

      In conversation Monday, 21-Aug-2023 22:42:12 JST permalink
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      Meow :verified: (housepanther@mstdn.goblackcat.com)'s status on Monday, 21-Aug-2023 22:42:13 JST Meow :verified: Meow :verified:
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      • Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

      @pluralistic @rysiek @kas Does medium make use of ActivityPub?

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Monday, 21-Aug-2023 22:42:14 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      • Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

      @rysiek @kas a) Medium is federated

      b) the article is about why I won't set up on +new+, unfederated services, not why I'm ragequitting

      c) Everything I write - 5-7 essays/week - are open access (CC BY you can republish them, including commercially) at pluralistic.net, and mirrored to Medium. I write one Medium column every week, which is Medium-only, and pays my mortgage.

      It's OK if you want to skip that column, but I think it's hard to characterize my publishing program as ungenerous.

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      Ben Ramsey (ramsey@phpc.social)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 23:02:35 JST Ben Ramsey Ben Ramsey
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      @pluralistic After spending several months on Bluesky and working with the protocol (on building a PHP library for it), I realized it’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

      Even if/when they do federate, the intent appears to be for large companies to run major portions of the protocol.

      And Bluesky just converted to a C corp to take on venture capital.

      I deactivated my account last week because I won’t get fooled again.

      (I now have that song by The Who stuck in my head.)

      In conversation Monday, 28-Aug-2023 23:02:35 JST permalink

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