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Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 08:44:52 JST Bread up, Bro You can tell this to conservatives, but they can't process it.
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xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 08:44:51 JST xianc78 @sickburnbro
>Moral define law. Law does not define morals.Right, you don't need laws to begin with. We don't need some baby-sitter organization known as "the government" to remind us that killing, stealing, and destroying property is wrong.
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Zealist (zealist@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 08:44:51 JST Zealist @xianc78 @sickburnbro read your fucking bible and stop preaching homosexuality you heathen. -
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Zealist (zealist@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 09:26:43 JST Zealist @xianc78 @sickburnbro i'm sorry -
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xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 09:26:44 JST xianc78 @Zealist @sickburnbro The ten commandments is basically the NAP minus the God first parts.
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SapientPearwood (sapientpearwood@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 10:15:36 JST SapientPearwood That only goes so far. If the laws violate God's law you are supposed to follow God's law instead. The NT was very clear that you are supposed to respect and follow your leaders so long as they are Godly men that follow God's laws. Zealist likes this. -
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Krypto (kryptoblok@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 19:54:42 JST Krypto @Zealist @xianc78 @sickburnbro Based on the context, and my studies of the original Greek, I would say this segment is probably talking about some kind of religious authorities and/or others given direct authority from God, not the state (at least as you and I know it).
Here's some interesting verses for study:
Mat. 20:20-28
1 Samuel 8
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Zealist (zealist@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 19:54:42 JST Zealist @KryptoBlok @xianc78 @sickburnbro look, you literally said your bias earlier "me christian anarchist" but paul wrote the book of romans during a period when rome was persecuting christians and it means what it says, you can try to claim it says something else in a language i don't understand, but i'm not gonna take your word for it, considering your bias tell you what @SuperLutheran i need your help. -
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Zealist (zealist@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 20:08:20 JST Zealist @SuperLutheran @KryptoBlok @xianc78 @sickburnbro i'm not articulate person. -
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SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 20:08:21 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half) @Zealist @KryptoBlok @xianc78 @sickburnbro You need my help talking to an anarchist?
Like, a guy who reads the Bible, and sees God setting up kings and empires, establishing hierarchy even in the family setting, but still thinks the state is naturally bad? A guy who has the luxury of forming a political philosophy because the state given him breathing room beyond mere survival?
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Zealist (zealist@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 20:27:17 JST Zealist @SuperLutheran @KryptoBlok @xianc78 @sickburnbro well i mostly meant cuz he's claming it doesn't read like that in another langauge which i got no idea, i'm english understander only. -
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Crux_Invictus (crux_invictus@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 20:37:57 JST Crux_Invictus @Zealist @KryptoBlok @xianc78 @sickburnbro @SuperLutheran Romans 13 explains, quite clearly, that the Christian is to obey the earthly government they find themselves under, it isn't about religious authority it's about the state/ruler. Given the context of the whole chapter we don't need to do a word study to understand Paul is talking about the state/ruler rather than some religious authority.
The command of Romans 13 applies even if the ruler is not Christian and even if they actively persecute Christians. The point is that God establishes all authority and rebelling against them, even if they are persecuting you, is rebelling against God.
However, there is still a hierarchy of obedience as the Christian must follow God first, meaning that if the ruler commands you to do something which would violate God's commands prioritise obedience to God. Generally this will mean civil disobedience to the point of martyrdom, there is an argument to be made for when the use of force may be permitted, but it's important to note that Holy Scripture does not give us a checklist to determine when violent rebellion is justified.
Romans 13 is a difficult chapter of a difficult epistle and should not be approached lightly. Especially when the people reading it are subject to anti-Christian rulers and don't want to be ruled by people who hate them. There's a lot of motivation for us to read exceptions into the text nowadays, but we must resist that temptation and let the Bible speak. Go through some of that good old tentatio, it builds character.Zealist likes this. -
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King_Noticer (king_noticer@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 21:29:38 JST King_Noticer @Crux_Invictus @Zealist @KryptoBlok @xianc78 @sickburnbro @SuperLutheran Maaaan, but I wanna rebel so baaaaaaad -
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Zealist (zealist@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 21:29:38 JST Zealist @King_Noticer @Crux_Invictus @KryptoBlok @xianc78 @sickburnbro @SuperLutheran -
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Zealist (zealist@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 21:35:15 JST Zealist @King_Noticer @Crux_Invictus @KryptoBlok @xianc78 @sickburnbro @SuperLutheran to be fair i don't think there's any justice i could enact against my enemies, that hte Lord couldn't do better. -
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King_Noticer (king_noticer@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 21:35:16 JST King_Noticer @Zealist @Crux_Invictus @KryptoBlok @xianc78 @sickburnbro @SuperLutheran Curses, the Almighty has called dibs -
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Zealist (zealist@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 21:46:38 JST Zealist @King_Noticer @sickburnbro @EssentialUtinsil @Crux_Invictus @KryptoBlok @xianc78 @SuperLutheran i couldn't put a person througha w oodchipper, it was sicken me, i'm not becoming a brutal monster even if my enemies are disgusting evil monster's themselves. -
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Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 21:46:39 JST Bread up, Bro @EssentialUtinsil @Zealist @King_Noticer @Crux_Invictus @KryptoBlok @xianc78 @SuperLutheran that's what I keep telling people; anger is not limitless, so you will need to be careful with punishment. -
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King_Noticer (king_noticer@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 21:46:39 JST King_Noticer @sickburnbro @EssentialUtinsil @Zealist @Crux_Invictus @KryptoBlok @xianc78 @SuperLutheran Yeah, and like, even if it was
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EssentialUtinsil :njp: (essentialutinsil@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 21:46:40 JST EssentialUtinsil :njp: @Zealist @King_Noticer @Crux_Invictus @KryptoBlok @xianc78 @sickburnbro @SuperLutheran even putting our enemies into the woodchipper feet first only gets you a few seconds of sweet justice, but the Lord's justice lasts an eternity.
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