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   LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 10:42:33 JST LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
   https://talker.news/2023/07/21/millions-not-working-in-jobs-related-to-their-studies/ [talker news]
   
   Most UK uni grads not working in their field.
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     simsa03 (simsa03@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 11:05:20 JST simsa03

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     The article stays mum on the study subjects those UK uni grads were not capable to work in later. I guess those from the STEM field got to work in jobs related to their subjects easoily (or: more easily) while primarily grads from the humanities may have not been able to monetize their subjects with an appropriate job.
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     GeniusMusing (geniusmusing@nu.federati.net)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 23:54:31 JST GeniusMusing

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     Seems to be a running theme...
     
     From 2010 according to search date.
     
     'Unemployed graduates Don't blame us,' says uni careers adviser Graduate Fog
     https://graduatefog.co.uk/ideas/uni-careers-adviser-insists-serving-grads/
     
     >Especially as he had no idea how harsh our questions were. The list kicked off with ‘Why is uni careers advice so bad?’ – and got progressively meaner.
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     >– Is uni careers advice stuck in the past?
     >– Whose fault is it that so many students never visit their careers service?
     >– Does a sinister careers ‘mafia’ put its own interests before those of students and graduates?
     >– And is it true that most uni careers advisers have never had a proper job? (Ouch!)
     
     Half of UK graduates do not work in their field of study, survey reveals The Independent | The Independent
     https://nu.federati.net/url/291071
     
     >Monday 30 June 2014
     
     UK Graduate Statistics & Employment Rates 2023 Analysis
     https://standout-cv.com/uk-graduate-statistics#degree-unemployment
     
     Degrees with the highest unemployment in the UK
     Rank Subject Rating for job prospects
     1 Media and cultural studies 2.5/5
     2 European studies 2.8/5
     3 Psychology 2.9/5
     4 International Relations and European Studies 3/5
     5 Civil Engineering 3.1/5
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     simsa03 (simsa03@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Monday, 24-Jul-2023 00:13:50 JST simsa03

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     Seems like the term "humanities" is somewhat outdated nowadays (without rebuking the general trend). That "media and cultural studies" lead one into unemployment is of no surprise, but civil engineering? That was astonishing to me. Even if the housing market wasn't putting up demand, the maintenance of #infrastructure still would, wouldn't it? But perhaps the U.K. is too deep into economic stagnation to have money left for that.
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     GeniusMusing (geniusmusing@nu.federati.net)'s status on Monday, 24-Jul-2023 01:09:20 JST GeniusMusing

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     I would have to guess it is the pay and that none of the jobs (very limited) are really "civil engineering" as we might expect them to be based on this site.
     
     What can I do with a civil engineering degree Prospects.ac.uk
     https://www.prospects.ac.uk/careers-advice/what-can-i-do-with-my-degree/civil-engineering
     
     >Employers hiring civil engineering graduates now
     >Mechanical Engineer Apprentice - Cumbria
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     > Babcock
     > Cumbria
     > £17,001-£19,500
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     >Graduate R&D Design Engineer
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     > Pilkington Technology Management Limited
     > Ormskirk
     > £24,501-£27,000
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     >Nuclear Engineer Graduate Programme
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     > BAE Systems
     > Barrow-in-Furness
     > £32,001-£34,500
     
     I am pretty sure that at those pay levels you either need several roommates or need to live at home.
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     LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Monday, 24-Jul-2023 07:31:49 JST LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

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     @simsa03 A few years ago in the US, STEM grads had the lowest "work in field" within a certain time after graduation rate of any subject / major.
     
     Rumors of high pay attract people who don't even like the required tasks to study it anyway.
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     @simsa03 @geniusmusing
     
     The thing people don't always understand is that college & university degrees are supposed to combine general knowledge with field specific knowledge. In many fields, one may obtain job focused training from a vocational program and be employed in a shorter time than going to college.
     
     The uni grad's general knowledge is why we tend to make them supervisors instead of reguar employees, but there's a limit to how many supervisors can tell someone with a shovel how to dig the hole.
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     simsa03 (simsa03@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Monday, 24-Jul-2023 07:43:58 JST simsa03

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     Isn't that a conflation of US and UK conditions?
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     @simsa03 Possibly so.