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   Jim (nou@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 22:43:08 JST Jim
   Friendly reminder, you're never more than an ATM to her.
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     Zealist (zealist@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 22:43:02 JST Zealist

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     • RaHoWaJoe
     @Frondeur @SuperLutheran @RaHoWaJoe
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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 22:43:03 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     • RaHoWaJoe
     @RaHoWaJoe Nah. Not all of us anyway.
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     Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 22:43:03 JST Frondeur

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     • RaHoWaJoe

     @SuperLutheran @RaHoWaJoe wHite people come from tornados…

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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 22:43:04 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     @Nou Biological determinism is big gay, it's like natural theology for dweebs
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     RaHoWaJoe (rahowajoe@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 22:43:04 JST RaHoWaJoe

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     • SuperLutheran (kicky half)
     @SuperLutheran Not to be a contrarian, but aren't we in a moobment based on biological determinism?
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     Jim (nou@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 22:43:05 JST Jim

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     • SuperLutheran (kicky half)
     @SuperLutheran Fall for? Sure. Be loyal to? Anecdotally from the chicks I've known who do that... lol. Lmao.
     As for the gold digger part, I usually don't phrase these critiques purely in terms of money. Because I agree it's rarely that simple. But it doesn't change the fact that women are hardwired to trade on their sexuality for resources. And in the case of the ones who marry convicts, that resource is usually drugs. Which is... uh... a lateral move at best.
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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 22:43:05 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     @Nou Hardwired, eh? So which one is the prostitution gene all these women have?
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     Jim (nou@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 22:43:05 JST Jim

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     • SuperLutheran (kicky half)
     @SuperLutheran It's next to the dumb and violent gene in blacks.
     Lmao. Are we really doing find the gene? Are you dusting off your fedora and going to start arguing biology doesn't real on YouTube? I think you missed that bandwagon by a few years man.
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     Jim (nou@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 22:43:06 JST Jim

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     • SuperLutheran (kicky half)
     @SuperLutheran Obviously I don't know your wife personally. And I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on what she thinks.
     But on a subconscious level, chances are... yeah. Maybe you're right, and she is one of the top percent of a percent who is completely able to overcome her biological hardwiring. And I pray you have found the Thomas Sowell of the XX gang.
     But assuming you have, speaking in generalities based off a single outlier is... not a great way of interacting with the world.
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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 22:43:06 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     @Nou Dude, chix will fall for and be loyal to a guy doing life behind bars. I think you're pretty mistaken about just how many are gold diggers.
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     Jim (nou@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 22:43:07 JST Jim

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     • SuperLutheran (kicky half)
     @SuperLutheran >I'm NOT just an ATM to my wife
     I never said you were.
     I would also never describe the US as a giant Welfare Store for the entire third world.
     But in both cases the point is about what these things are *viewed as*, not what they are.
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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 22:43:07 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     @Nou So you believe that I'm only "viewed as" an ATM by my wife?
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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jul-2023 22:43:08 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     @Nou EXCUSE ME, I'm NOT just an ATM to my wife. I'm the leader of this household and king of my castle.
     I'm also a bodyguard, body pillow, personal driver, dude that gets her pregnant, chore helper outer, landscaper, coffee guy, introversion enabler and foot massager.
     And I'm the best at what I do.
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     Zealist (zealist@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:24:44 JST Zealist

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     • UnityOstara
     @UnityOstara @SuperLutheran @Nou @Victor_Emmanuel both the Godcast crew have htier own hellthreads going, what a day.
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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:24:45 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     • Victor_Emmanuel
     @Nou @Victor_Emmanuel So as I've pointed out, by definition trading goods for sexual services is prostitution. You just believe that the proper place for whoring, *sanctified* whoring, is marriage (wherein the wife will only see the husband as an ATM).
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     UnityOstara (unityostara@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:24:45 JST UnityOstara

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     • Victor_Emmanuel
     @SuperLutheran @Nou @Victor_Emmanuel I refuse to use my husband as an ATM. I can waste my own money!
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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:24:46 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     • Victor_Emmanuel
     @Nou @Victor_Emmanuel So you believe all women are prostitutes by nature, but only some forms of prostitution are sinful. Just trying to clarify.
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     Jim (nou@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:24:46 JST Jim

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     @SuperLutheran @Victor_Emmanuel No. For at least the third time, I don't think a woman selecting a mate for his money or a man selecting a mate for her sexual attractiveness is prostitution.
     
     In the same way I don't think eating is gluttony. Or that sexual attraction is lust.
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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:24:47 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     @Nou @Victor_Emmanuel
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     Jim (nou@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:24:47 JST Jim

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     • Victor_Emmanuel
     @SuperLutheran @Victor_Emmanuel And?
     Are you honestly denying that matters of degree can be the difference between something being godly and sinful?
     I know for a fact that you don't believe that because I have seen you post on the difference between drinking alcohol and intoxication. I would assume you are attracted to your wife, but certainly hope you're not engaging in lust. Same with eating but not engaging in gluttony. Pretending that is one issue where nuance and degree goes out the window is insanely dishonest.
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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:24:48 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     • Victor_Emmanuel
     @Nou @Victor_Emmanuel According to u, my wife is hardwired to see me as an atm, and everything she does in the bedroom is transactional because of "biological hardwiring."
     Ergo, your position is that women are designed to be hookers. Prostitution is in their nature apparently.
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     Jim (nou@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:24:48 JST Jim

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     • Victor_Emmanuel
     @SuperLutheran @Victor_Emmanuel Once again, you are dishonestly taking a generalized statement and trying to naxalt it. Naxalt is dishonest and crappy when liberals do it with race or sodomy or any of their other pet issues, and it's dishonest and crappy here. You framing a generalized statement broadcast into the ether as a personal attack on your family is frankly pretty gross.
     
     And your pretending not to grasp that prostitution is a perversion of natural relationships but that it maintains the same form is amazingly even more dishonest. Pic very much related.
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     Victor_Emmanuel (victor_emmanuel@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:24:49 JST Victor_Emmanuel

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     • SuperLutheran (kicky half)
     @Nou @SuperLutheran Let’s say marriage is transactional. What’s the up shot of this? Wives have to put effort into the marriage? Everyone here already agrees with that.
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     Jim (nou@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:24:49 JST Jim

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     • Victor_Emmanuel
     @Victor_Emmanuel @SuperLutheran Super was accusing me of saying all women are whores for pointing out that female reproductive strategy is basically trading in on their sexuality for resources.
     My point was that acknowledging that in no way suggests I'm saying all women are whores. And in a non-Clown World that impulse is good, and healthy.
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     Victor_Emmanuel (victor_emmanuel@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:24:50 JST Victor_Emmanuel

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     • SuperLutheran (kicky half)
     @Nou @SuperLutheran >Are those employer relationships somehow not transactional?
     They are less so. An even lesser version would be slavery.
     >I don't know what definition of transaction you and Super are using.
     If a transaction was merely an agreement then there would be nothing distinguishing it from a covenant thus making salvation transactional. So to distinguish the two a transaction must be purely material, which Christian marriage is not.
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     Jim (nou@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:24:50 JST Jim

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     @Victor_Emmanuel @SuperLutheran >They are less so. An even lesser version would be slavery.
     Ok.. this is just simply not the normal definition of transaction. So it sounds like we're just using different definitions of the word and don't particularly disagree.
     >If a transaction was merely an agreement then there would be nothing distinguishing it from a covenant
     Sure there would. A covenant is merely an agreement. A transaction require each side provide something, a covenant can be transactional, or it can require something from only one side. Or from neither. An armistice would be an example of the latter.
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     Victor_Emmanuel (victor_emmanuel@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:24:51 JST Victor_Emmanuel

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     • SuperLutheran (kicky half)
     @Nou @SuperLutheran I have a transactional relationship with my boss “I work for you and you give me money”. I could quit or he could fire me. I did not have a transactional relationship with my parents “I obey you and you take care of me”. I could not quit being their son and they could not kick me out (without being terrible parents).
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     Jim (nou@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:24:51 JST Jim

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     • SuperLutheran (kicky half)
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     @Victor_Emmanuel @SuperLutheran >I have a transactional relationship with my boss “I work for you and you give me money”. I could quit or he could fire me
     You may. Try not showing up to work when you have a contract. Or firing someone in a Right to Work state. Are those employer relationships somehow not transactional?
     >I did not have a transactional relationship with my parents “I obey you and you take care of me”. I could not quit being their son and they could not kick me out (without being terrible parents).
     Only insofar as as the blood relationship goes.
     Insofar as the actual filial/paternal responsibility goes... it's absolutely transactional? I don't know what definition of transaction you and Super are using, but relationships where both sides have obligations predicated on the otherside fulfilling their obligations meets the definition in the dictionary...
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     Jim (nou@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:24:52 JST Jim

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     • SuperLutheran (kicky half)
     @SuperLutheran I don't disagree with any of that, except your assertion that what you described isn't transactional. It absolutely is.
     It may not be a 1:1 quid pro quo, but it is indisputably a transaction. And one can test this by looking at any relationship where a man stops paying or a woman stops putting out. The other side dries up. And usually incredibly quickly.
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     Victor_Emmanuel (victor_emmanuel@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:24:52 JST Victor_Emmanuel

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     • SuperLutheran (kicky half)
     @Nou @SuperLutheran A transaction can be ended at anytime by either party for any reason. This does not apply to a Christian marriage.
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     Jim (nou@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:24:52 JST Jim

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     @Victor_Emmanuel @SuperLutheran >A transaction can be ended at anytime by either party for any reason
     Also, this is entirely false. Preventing that is literally the exact reason contracts (of which marriage is one) exist.
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     Jim (nou@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:24:53 JST Jim

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     • SuperLutheran (kicky half)
     @SuperLutheran So which part of that are you denying applies to marriage?
     Husbands aren't supposed to financially take care of their wives? Or wives aren't supposed to pay the marital debt?
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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:24:53 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     @Nou Wives are to "pay the marital debt" because that is their duty (and pleasure) to their husband, not in order to obtain resources. Husbands, likewise, are to have sex with their wives for the exact same reason. Scripture does not present marriage as a transactional affair.
     Husbands *also* provide, but not in order to purchase sex. It is, per Ephesians 5, to be done without conditions per the Agape love charged to them.
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     Jim (nou@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:24:54 JST Jim

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     • SuperLutheran (kicky half)
     @SuperLutheran >then that isn't from original sin, that's from design
     That's not (necessarily) true in the slightest. That only holds if you think that the spiritual doesn't affect the physical. Which would be a really bizarre take for a believer to have.
     
     I'll also take this opportunity to point out "to be whores" is your wording, not mine. I don't think that women trading on resources for their sexuality (or men doing the reverse) is inherently bad. It's kind of one of the main purposes of marriage in a non-Clown World.
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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:24:54 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     @Nou "women trading on resources for their sexuality"
     That's prostitution by definition lmao
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     Jim (nou@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:24:55 JST Jim

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     @SuperLutheran Obviously a bad example since Our Lady was born free from the stain of Original Sin.
     But if you want to pick any other female saint, then absolutely. And overcoming the worst parts of their nature is precisely why they get that cool little "St." in front of their name.
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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:24:55 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     @Nou But if women are "hard wired" to be whores as you say, then that isn't from original sin, that's from design. That would apply to Mary.
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     Jim (nou@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:24:56 JST Jim

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     • SuperLutheran (kicky half)
     @SuperLutheran I'm not a determinist of any sort.
     But pretending biology doesn't lead to certain inclinations or predispositions is just schizophrenic.
     And extremely ironic from someone who was not too long ago trying to tell me one of the messages of 1 Corinthians was "self-control is hard."
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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:24:56 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     @Nou Oh, you want to get theological here, I see. So do you believe the Virgin Mary was hard wired to be a prostitute?
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     Victor_Emmanuel (victor_emmanuel@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:52:19 JST Victor_Emmanuel

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     @Zealist @UnityOstara @SuperLutheran @Nou The woman question vs the boomer question. Which is more autistic?
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     Zealist (zealist@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:52:19 JST Zealist

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     @Victor_Emmanuel @UnityOstara @SuperLutheran @Nou The only boomer question is whether we have enough pillows or not
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     Zealist (zealist@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:58:35 JST Zealist

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     • SuperLutheran (kicky half)
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     • UnityOstara
     @UnityOstara @Victor_Emmanuel @SuperLutheran @Nou then i'd have been better off remaining ignorant of their existance.
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     UnityOstara (unityostara@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:58:36 JST UnityOstara

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     • SuperLutheran (kicky half)
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     • Zealist
     @Victor_Emmanuel @Zealist @SuperLutheran @Nou she's pure Scandinavian and I would never invite her to Poast let alone share her number!
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     UnityOstara (unityostara@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:58:37 JST UnityOstara

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     • Zealist
     @Victor_Emmanuel @Zealist @SuperLutheran @Nou One of my best friends is actually Autistic. Legit QT!
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     Victor_Emmanuel (victor_emmanuel@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 04:58:37 JST Victor_Emmanuel

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     • SuperLutheran (kicky half)
     • UnityOstara
     • Zealist
     @UnityOstara @Zealist @SuperLutheran @Nou What’s her number?
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     Zealist (zealist@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 05:07:06 JST Zealist

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     @UnityOstara @Victor_Emmanuel @SuperLutheran @Nou sorry i'm only purposefully racist
     i might be the most unreasonable racist, in terms of i just don't like these people, i've never lived around them at all
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     UnityOstara (unityostara@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 05:07:07 JST UnityOstara

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     • Zealist
     @Zealist @Victor_Emmanuel @SuperLutheran @Nou She is accidentally racist. Once said "what is that Womans problem, is it because her skin is dark?" From the mouths of babes!