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   wakest likes your bugs ⁂ (liaizon@social.wake.st)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 23:59:54 JST wakest likes your bugs ⁂

   ActivityPub federation of Gitlab underway!

   "I have finished preparing my design documents for this feature. See here for the reasoning behind adding ActivityPub to Gitlab and an overview of the implementation path, and here more specifically for this current issue, with more detailed specifications.

   I now feel confident enough to get starting implementing this into Gitlab. I'm going to add the activities iteratively, there is quite some distance to cover up." -Kik

   via https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/21582#note_1469889541

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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 22:00:28 JST feld

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     • Strypey
     • Jeff McNeill
     Before ActivityPub we were literally using RSS (OStatus) as the fediverse protocol
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     Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 22:00:30 JST Strypey

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     • Jeff McNeill

     @jeffmcneill
     > ActivityPub is the new RSS?

     I've seen AP described as 'RSS with replies' ; )

     @liaizon

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     Jeff McNeill (jeffmcneill@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 22:00:31 JST Jeff McNeill

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     @liaizon ActivityPub is the new RSS?

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 22:42:16 JST clacke

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     wakest likes your bugs ⁂ (liaizon@social.wake.st)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 22:42:17 JST wakest likes your bugs ⁂

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     • heluecht
     • ForgeFed

     @heluecht asked them about implementing @forgefed

     "The current specs I proposed are meant to allow people on the fediverse to follow activity on Gitlab instances, without write access, as a first step toward the fediverse. For that reason, I prefer to avoid using an extension of ActivityPub : if I do use it, then Mastodon, Lemmy and others now have to implement support for that extension too, or the content we send to them will be useless."

     Børge repeated this.
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     wakest likes your bugs ⁂ (liaizon@social.wake.st)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 22:42:18 JST wakest likes your bugs ⁂

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     "In implementing an ActivityPub actor, there are three distinct parts we need:

     We need to make a list of activities publicly available, similar to what a RSS feed is doing, but using the ActivityStream format.
     We need to add a "profile page" endpoint for the actor, providing its name and url to the outbox (list of activities) endpoint
     We need to accept external POST requests for subscribing, and then push our own requests to the subscriber when an event happen."

     via https://gitlab.com/oelmekki/gitlab-activitypub-design/-/blob/main/social-following.md

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 22:42:21 JST Sexy Moon

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     • Strypey
     • Jeff McNeill
     • natriumchloride
     @strypey @liaizon @natriumchloride @jeffmcneill rss declined for numerous reasons but here's the big ones:
     
     1. general developer antipathy toward xml
     2. unlike permissive html, rss was strict and developers constantly fucked up implementing it correctly, a single minor error made the entire feed unusable (tying back to 1, maybe the xml hate was justified)
     3. end users wanted to be fed the entire document through rss and read it on their reader of choice rather than ujst get a link through syndication, but this stripped tracking and ad embeds so content producers weren't enthusiastic
     4. clients tended to be poor, everybody remembers the couple good paid ones that were essentially aggregator services in reality
     5 . mozilla of course, ignoring their mission statement massively contributed to the death spiral by removing direct rss support from the browser
     
     so now we live in a world where regular webpages that are literally just status feeds don't even have rss on them so you have to scrape and dom interpret the fucking things; and people beg them to post updates "via mastodon" which they inevitably do by joining a massive server that silently blocks half the fediverse from being able to subscribe to it. what a fucking mess
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     Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 22:42:24 JST Strypey

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     • Jeff McNeill
     • natriumchloride

     @liaizon
     > there have been endless articles with titles like "rss is dead"

     Reports of RSS' demise have been greatly exaggerated. As with XMPP, and many other open standards that still have communities actively using them, with a range of Free Code (and sometimes proprietary) implementations. Many websites still publish RSS feeds. Eg RSS can be used to follow Titter accounts via a Nitter instance, and similar stuff is possible in Invidious using RSS.

     @natriumchloride @jeffmcneill

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     wakest likes your bugs ⁂ (liaizon@social.wake.st)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 22:42:25 JST wakest likes your bugs ⁂

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     • Jeff McNeill
     • natriumchloride

     @natriumchloride @jeffmcneill oh just the context that there have been endless articles with titles like "rss is dead"

     I would hope we can do a better job then rss but I guess the task is even more complex

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     natriumchloride (natriumchloride@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 22:42:26 JST natriumchloride

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     • Jeff McNeill

     @liaizon @jeffmcneill huh why not though? Is there some context to this i'm missing

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     wakest likes your bugs ⁂ (liaizon@social.wake.st)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 22:42:27 JST wakest likes your bugs ⁂

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     • Jeff McNeill

     @jeffmcneill hopefully not

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 22:42:28 JST clacke

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     • Strypey
     • natriumchloride

     @strypey @liaizon @natriumchloride Sounds like federation between forges isn't what this proposal is about, more like just "follow my repo on Mastodon".

     Hope that initial impression is wrong.
     ♲ social.wake.st/@liaizon/110714…

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     natriumchloride (natriumchloride@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 22:42:29 JST natriumchloride

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     @liaizon hahahah browsing git repos has been my social media refuge, or a substitute way to kill some time, so this is sort of funny

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     Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 22:42:29 JST Strypey

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     • natriumchloride

     @natriumchloride
     > browsing git repos has been my social media refuge, or a substitute way to kill some time, so this is sort of funny

     Imagine all the little communities forges being federated into one huge HitGub replacement. Protected from being bought by EvilCorp by all the baked in benefits of decentralisation using an open standard. With GitLab getting on board, that train looks like its finally leaving the station!

     @liaizon

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 23:02:56 JST Sexy Moon

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     • djsumdog
     • Strypey
     • feld
     • Jeff McNeill
     @djsumdog @feld @jeffmcneill @strypey @liaizon i recently tried to use the activitypub plugin for wordpress and two things happened: it has its own "am i working" checks, which failed immediately which i tracked down to an obvious bug in its own webfinger implementation; and it didn't work with pleroma/akkoma at all, for non-obvious reasons when i tried to dig into the php to fix it myself and gave up
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 23:02:57 JST Sexy Moon

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     • Strypey
     • feld
     • Jeff McNeill
     @feld @jeffmcneill @strypey @liaizon if you want a laugh, one of the criticisms of ostatus was that it was an amalgamation of half a dozen other standards but in practice implementations of any of these individual standards were sufficiently different that interop meant supporting every implementation's quirks, or just ignoring all of them except the big implementation's (gnu social) quirks
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 23:02:57 JST djsumdog

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     • Sexy Moon
     • Strypey
     • feld
     • Jeff McNeill
     Ostatus was the final form after identica and pump right? It was supported on Mastodon and Pleroma at one time, but was removed from both.
     
     I think Wordpress has an AP plugin so you can use it for blog updates like RSS. I'm more interested in what gitea was talking about when it came to federating things like issues/pull-requests.
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 05:43:11 JST feld

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     • Sexy Moon
     • Machismo
     • djsumdog
     • Strypey
     • Jeff McNeill
     https://codeberg.org/GNUsocial/gnu-social/src/branch/v3/plugins/ActivityPub
     
     It's literally in the repo here
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     Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 05:43:13 JST Strypey

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     • Sexy Moon
     • Machismo
     • djsumdog
     • feld
     • Jeff McNeill

     @Zerglingman
     > [OStatus] was supported on gnusocial at one time, but was removed from that too

     Are you sure?

     @feld @djsumdog @jeffmcneill @Moon @liaizon

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     Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 05:43:14 JST Machismo

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     • Sexy Moon
     • djsumdog
     • Strypey
     • feld
     • Jeff McNeill
     @djsumdog @liaizon @strypey @jeffmcneill @feld @Moon It was supported on gnusocial at one time, but was removed from that too.
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     Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 09:43:28 JST Strypey

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     • clacke
     • natriumchloride

     @clacke
     > Hope that initial impression is wrong

     My reading is that ForgeFed tacks on a set of custom extensions to vanilla AP. The dev implementing for GL is starting with the vanilla-flavoured parts; already a formidable piece of work. But this is totally compatible with adding the ForgeFed-flavoured parts later, and I believe this is in the roadmap. See:

     https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/21582#note_1470201114

     @liaizon @natriumchloride

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     wakest likes your bugs ⁂ (liaizon@social.wake.st)'s status on Monday, 07-Aug-2023 23:26:01 JST wakest likes your bugs ⁂

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     Initial #ActivityPub support incoming into #Gitlab
     "I have liased with our product team and we have the green light to get this merged." -Sean Carroll (Engineering Manager, Gitlab)

     https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/merge_requests/127023

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