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   Chinese man ? #nobot (iamal_pharius@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jul-2023 04:52:28 JST Chinese man ? #nobot
   ahahahhahah now i have to "learn" linux
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jul-2023 04:52:26 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits
     • Hoss Delgado
     • Twoinchdestroya
     If Windows is in the cloud, what am I going to run to get onto the cloud? 🙄
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     Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jul-2023 04:52:27 JST Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits

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     • Twoinchdestroya
     >Microsoft starts giving their OS away for "free"
     >Normies think "wow, what a benevolent company!"
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jul-2023 04:52:27 JST Hoss Delgado

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     • Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits
     • Twoinchdestroya
     I'm confused, wasn't Windows always free? :marseypirate:
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     koropokkur (koropokkur@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jul-2023 04:52:28 JST koropokkur

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     @IAMAL_PHARIUS you will own nothing and only use our OS if you are compliant.
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     Twoinchdestroya (twoinchdestroya@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jul-2023 04:52:28 JST Twoinchdestroya

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     @Koropokkur @IAMAL_PHARIUS Try telling people that everything on the cloud is the big step in political control of your private life, and they think you’re insane

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     Whitewall_Blasphemy (whitewall_blasphemy@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jul-2023 16:04:25 JST Whitewall_Blasphemy

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     @IAMAL_PHARIUS Hold up... they proposing to make us use "their storage" and a dumb terminal to bootstrap windows too? Imagine how shocked any of us should be when they try to outlaw personal storage devices or make using them a new kind of awkward cludge with some sort of corruption malware on host PC bios/firmware...
     I'm imagining this because I try to think up the most fucked up shit possible to force plebs into an Apple store style ecosystem of software and this solidifies the most.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jul-2023 16:04:25 JST 翠星石

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     • Whitewall_Blasphemy
     @Whitewall_Blasphemy >it won't be too long till it's all you can boot on new desktops and the like... on a firmware level.
     Firmware? You mean UEFI level?
     
     The whole idea of firmware was that it was microprocessor instructions burned into external ROM chips - not as soft as software, as it was ROM, but not as hard as hardware, as you could technically just desolder the ROM chip and solder a new one in with different instructions - thus firmware.
     
     More recently (1990s?), it has seemingly been fashionable to rebrand certain kinds of proprietary software with a proprietary software license as "firmware", to trick the user into thinking that there's some physical nature preventing the understanding and replacement of such software beyond the manufacturer refusing to tell you how to use the hardware and now often digital handcuff schemes to prevent the replacement of such software, even if hard reverse engineering work is done.
     
     
     m$ made windows 8 ARM tablets refuse to boot any OS not signed by them maybe a decade ago, via "secure boot", although they did make it a requirement that AMD64 windows 8 "computers" have the ability to disable "secure boot enforcement", seemingly a temporary retreat, in order to silence opposition and probably to allow certain kinds of proprietary software that hooks into the boot process to work.
     
     The ability to add your own "secure boot" keys will be probably kept for a while longer until it's finally feasible to remove such functionality completely.
     
     More information on the topic is here: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot
     
     
     The sad fact is, at almost every "computer store" now, it is impossible to find a AMD64 computer that will boot up without proprietary software, with digital handcuffs implemented via cryptographic signatures, to prevent the replacement of such proprietary software.
     
     
     >they proposing to make us use "their storage" and a dumb terminal to bootstrap windows too? Imagine how shocked any of us should be when they try to outlaw personal storage devices
     Yes, the next stage of the proprietary plan is to combine https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html with https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.en.html to make all "computers" little more than glorified thin clients into a remote server, with signature checking to ensure the software on the computer hasn't been modified, with the server barring access to a client if it's detected that modification has been made, with a hourly, daily and monthly rent for access to such "service".
     
     The proprietary masters simply want more money and more control after all - as they're not satisfied with the billions and billions of dollars they receive already and the control they have over billions of people.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jul-2023 16:20:18 JST 翠星石

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     @Hoss Windows has always been proprietary software, therefore it has never been free.
     
     How it isn't that hard to use windows in a seemingly gratis manner is one of their proprietary tricks.
     
     If they wanted to, they could easily fix the many "bugs" that allow windows to be "activated", or the nagware silenced, but they don't do that, as they're always happy to get another sucker.
     
     The way they profit is via many ways: firstly, many "computer" OEM's have are made to pay a certain amount for each computer sold running windows (for "licensing") and they also have to pay per unit for computers running a different OS, or no OS at all - thus the windows tax.
     
     Another way is the renting out of "windows licenses" for an exorbitant price and plenty of suckers will pay that price so they can just enter a license key, rather than having to put up with the nagware, or figure out how to disable it, or do an unauthorized activation.
     
     Windows also has ads in it now, which are reasonably possible, plus it has spyware functionality, with more added every update, as renting out access to such information is extremely profitable.
     
     Even if you've acquired computing hardware without a windows tax, "activated" it without paying money, disabled all the ads and somehow disabled the spyware, you always end up paying with
     your freedom: https://www.fsf.org/windows
     
     
     Stop being a sucker and install GNU/Linux-libre: https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.en.html but you won't, as you seem to actually love bowing down to many proprietary masters.
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     Whitewall_Blasphemy (whitewall_blasphemy@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jul-2023 16:58:56 JST Whitewall_Blasphemy

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     @Suiseiseki That's pretty much what I meant, but what I said was oversimplified.
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