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Coon Appreciater (mebigbrain@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 05:31:18 JST 
Coon Appreciater
My first experience with Chinese fantasy was to read a webcomic without any context. They kept going on about "cultivation" and "pills" and "sects" and I thought it was about a cult of ninja pharmacists or something. -
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Zealist (zealist@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 05:31:05 JST 
Zealist
@nugger @jeffcliff @Zerglingman @Leaflord @SpaceElf @InceptionState @Kang_Kong3 @MeBigbrain @WashedOutGundamPilot -
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nugger@poa.st's status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 05:31:06 JST 
nugger
@jeffcliff @Zerglingman @Leaflord @SpaceElf @InceptionState @Kang_Kong3 @MeBigbrain @WashedOutGundamPilot I AND OP ARE ONE, FOR WE SHARE BLOOD AND SOIL -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 05:31:07 JST 
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
> THAT YOU ASSUME STILL HAS THAT WORLDVIEW
keep shadowboxing with some worldview
IDGAF what "broader society" thinks. I take issue with OP's blood and soil. -
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nugger@poa.st's status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 05:31:07 JST
nugger
@jeffcliff @Zerglingman @Leaflord @SpaceElf @InceptionState @Kang_Kong3 @MeBigbrain @WashedOutGundamPilot THEN I SUGGEST THAT YOU BATTLE COVID WITH A PERSONAL, INDIVIDUAL LOCKDOWN AND LEAVE THE BROADER SOCIETY TO THEIR OWN DEVICES -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 05:31:08 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
Sure. But lots of shit happened during the past 1000 years, and individual farms pass hands on that timeframe. -
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nugger@poa.st's status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 05:31:08 JST
nugger
@jeffcliff @Zerglingman @Leaflord @SpaceElf @InceptionState @Kang_Kong3 @MeBigbrain @WashedOutGundamPilot DONT RETREAT TO YOUR INDIVIDUAL FARM, COME BACK DOWN TO THE BAILEY
YOU ARE PUSHING AN ENTIRE COMPREHENSIVE WORLDVIEW, NOT THROUGH THE AUTHORITY OF YOUR CHARACTER BUT THROUGH THE SUPPOSED AUTHORITY OF THE BROADER SOCIETY THAT YOU ASSUME STILL HAS THAT WORLDVIEW
AND YOU'RE ASSUMING THAT FALSELY
YOU'VE DONNED YOUR MOTHEATEN POWDERED WIG AND MONOCLE AND STANDING IN THE MIDDLE OF A SECTION 8 APARTMENT COMPLEX ARE LOUDLY CALLING OUT FOR FELLOW LIBERALS TO COME OUT AND AFFIRM THE 80% WHITE MAJORITY LIBERALISM OF THE PAST CENTURY
TO MARCH WITH YOU ARM IN ARM
THATS GONE, THAT'S OVER
YOUR WORLDVIEW SIMPLY ISNT TRUE ANYMORE
IT NEVER WAS BUT YOU COULD PRETEND IT WAS GIVEN CERTAIN CONDITIONS THAT ARE NOW GONE -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 05:31:09 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
History will tell you no matter where you are that there's been waves of different groups that have and go. Especially in europe or anywhere where agriculture is practiced.
Maybe your area has been stable for a millenium though. -
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nugger@poa.st's status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 05:31:09 JST
nugger
@jeffcliff @MeBigbrain @Zerglingman @Leaflord @SpaceElf @InceptionState @Kang_Kong3 @WashedOutGundamPilot INTELLECTUALLY VACANT AND IMPOTENT TAKE
AFTER THE MANY CONQUESTS EVEN ETHNIC ENGLISHMEN ARE STILL 50% CELTIC
YOUR WORLDVIEW IS SOME OUTDATED OUTMODED 1900'S DRIVEL THAT CARRIES NOTHING ETERNALLY TRUE -- ITS ALL PERIOD FASHION -
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Cap'n Kong (slightretvrn) (kang_kong3@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 05:31:10 JST 
Cap'n Kong (slightretvrn)
@jeffcliff @Zerglingman @Leaflord @SpaceElf @InceptionState @MeBigbrain @WashedOutGundamPilot @nugger Same family name (with spelling variations) all the way back -
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Coon Appreciater (mebigbrain@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 05:31:10 JST
Coon Appreciater
@Kang_Kong3 @jeffcliff @Zerglingman @Leaflord @SpaceElf @InceptionState @WashedOutGundamPilot @nugger >jeff: "FAMILY DOESN'T REAL! HISTORY AND INHERITANCE NOT EXIST!" -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 05:31:11 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
> Blood and soil is one of the deepest *lies*
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Cap'n Kong (slightretvrn) (kang_kong3@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 05:31:11 JST
Cap'n Kong (slightretvrn)
@jeffcliff @Zerglingman @Leaflord @SpaceElf @InceptionState @MeBigbrain @WashedOutGundamPilot @nugger I'm the first generation off of the farm that's been in my bloodline for a millenium of recorded history. That's pretty fucking real to me, jeff. -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 05:31:11 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
off of a single farm, really now? -
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nugger@poa.st's status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 05:31:12 JST
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@SpaceElf @MeBigbrain @Zerglingman @Leaflord @InceptionState @WashedOutGundamPilot I LIKED EXCALIBUR THE MOOVY'S TAKE OF "THE LAND AND THE KING ARE ONE" BEING THE SOURCE OF ALL THE POWERS -
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Cap'n Kong (slightretvrn) (kang_kong3@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 05:31:12 JST
Cap'n Kong (slightretvrn)
@nugger @SpaceElf @MeBigbrain @Zerglingman @Leaflord @InceptionState @WashedOutGundamPilot >The king and the land are one
Blood and soil is one of the deepest truths -
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Space Elf (spaceelf@leafposter.club)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 05:31:13 JST 
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@MeBigbrain @Zerglingman @Leaflord @InceptionState @WashedOutGundamPilot I'd note that they generally surpass natural law for shitty reasons in western culture, too. There are however, several exceptions. King Arthur is the most notable, his story is one of coming resurrection. -
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Coon Appreciater (mebigbrain@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 05:31:14 JST
Coon Appreciater
@Zerglingman @InceptionState @Leaflord @WashedOutGundamPilot The way I see it, a Western take on cultivation would probably be horrific, like some forest hag who turns children into pills that make her immortal. Humans who surpass natural law are frowned upon in Western folklore. -
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Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 05:31:15 JST 
Machismo
@InceptionState @MeBigbrain @Leaflord @WashedOutGundamPilot I had an idea of trying to write an actual good cultivation novel; I have a neat plot idea that could probably work out, but I just don't know how to capture the feeling of xianxia without shitting out all the same phrases 24/7. In my mind, that's what makes the genre. -
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Summertime for Zeon (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 05:31:16 JST 
Summertime for Zeon
@Leaflord @MeBigbrain It's a window into the chink psyche.
- Success is only found via fortuitous, fated encounters
- No one is equipped to build their own success, only capitalize on luck
- Cruelty to enemies, lip service of kindness to allies (often apathetic cruelty though)
- they aren't a material race, they aren't accustomed to collecting and using objects, so every little thing they own is a life-changing treasure, (equipment isn't background noise) -
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InceptionState (inceptionstate@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 05:31:16 JST 
InceptionState
@WashedOutGundamPilot @Leaflord @MeBigbrain It's often just lazy writing. These authors spray out thousands of words a day for years on end, they don't bother with stuff like characters with depth. And a lot of the main tropes have pretty close equivalents in Western fantasy. They are just less ashamed of just throwing random shit together and calling it a novel, or padding word count with 5000 words describing their new shiny objects.
For example:
- Spoiled young master / spoiled aristocrat: an easy way to contrast our virtuous, hard-working main character with an undeserving nepo-baby.
- Fortuitous encounter: pretty common in Western fantasy for the protagonist to stumble across a magic sword in a stone or some similar stroke of fate.
- Success is only found via fortuitous, fated encounters - this gets subverted all the time. Half the stuff I have read involves a main character using tenacity and grit to overcome "luckier" opponents. -
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Coon Appreciater (mebigbrain@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 05:31:17 JST
Coon Appreciater
@WashedOutGundamPilot I'm not sure if all of this excessive detailed lore is autistic, rigorously cataloged, and makes sense if you take the time to study it, or just plain retarded. -
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Leaf Lord (leaflord@leafposter.club)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 05:31:17 JST 
Leaf Lord
It's plain retarded. Wuxia is absolutely retarded and dogshit. Bing bong ascension to poopoo rank through wood cultivation just sounds absurd.
However I think from their perspective our "man with sword kills big monster" fantasy must seem equally repetitive and retarded. -
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Summertime for Zeon (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 05:31:18 JST
Summertime for Zeon
@MeBigbrain forgot we had a wuxia thread before
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 05:31:44 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
well when you take his dick out of your ass consider why you are hurting and he isn't once in awhile -
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Zealist (zealist@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 05:31:44 JST
Zealist
@jeffcliff @nugger @Zerglingman @Leaflord @SpaceElf @InceptionState @Kang_Kong3 @MeBigbrain @WashedOutGundamPilot nigga look at this hydroponic corn sprouting -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 06:41:16 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
yeah there is
there is no god, you can be 100% certain of that -
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Zealist (zealist@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 06:41:16 JST
Zealist
@jeffcliff @JedDrudge @Zerglingman @Leaflord @SpaceElf @Dadbolgainz @InceptionState @Kang_Kong3 @MeBigbrain @WashedOutGundamPilot @nugger i don't see how you could ever be 100% certain of that, you can't even be 100% certain your working knowledge of physics is 100% correct -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 06:41:17 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
and we're back to the fact that it's an epistemological mugging, and that there is no god and no amount of outgroup homogeneity bias will give you one -
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DeadDrudge (jeddrudge@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 06:41:17 JST 
DeadDrudge
There seems to be no way to be certain one way or another... -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 06:41:18 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
There is no such thing as a spirit, or a "spiritual connection"
They convince themselves that they should be there, that's it. -
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Cap'n Kong (slightretvrn) (kang_kong3@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 06:41:18 JST
Cap'n Kong (slightretvrn)
@jeffcliff @Dadbolgainz @Zerglingman @Leaflord @SpaceElf @InceptionState @MeBigbrain @WashedOutGundamPilot @nugger Ah, we're back to the godless materialism/pascal's wager territory again. -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 06:41:19 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
of course -
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卐Dadbol卐 (dadbolgainz@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 06:41:19 JST 
卐Dadbol卐
@jeffcliff @Zerglingman @Leaflord @SpaceElf @InceptionState @Kang_Kong3 @MeBigbrain @WashedOutGundamPilot @nugger Then the soil shapes the blood. Naturally, people recognize this and form a spiritual connection to the soil. Hence "blood and soil" -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 06:41:20 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
no -
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卐Dadbol卐 (dadbolgainz@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 06:41:20 JST
卐Dadbol卐
@jeffcliff @Kang_Kong3 @Zerglingman @Leaflord @SpaceElf @InceptionState @MeBigbrain @WashedOutGundamPilot @nugger Do environments affect evolution? -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 06:41:21 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
a psychological connection? sure
but it's just that: makyo and illusion -
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Cap'n Kong (slightretvrn) (kang_kong3@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 06:41:21 JST
Cap'n Kong (slightretvrn)
@jeffcliff @Dadbolgainz @Zerglingman @Leaflord @SpaceElf @InceptionState @MeBigbrain @WashedOutGundamPilot @nugger The people shape the land and the land shapes the people. -
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Cap'n Kong (slightretvrn) (kang_kong3@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 06:41:21 JST
Cap'n Kong (slightretvrn)
@jeffcliff @Dadbolgainz @Zerglingman @Leaflord @SpaceElf @InceptionState @MeBigbrain @WashedOutGundamPilot @nugger Multiply that for centuries and the connection is not illusory at all -
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 06:41:22 JST
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
the land is real -
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卐Dadbol卐 (dadbolgainz@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 06:41:22 JST
卐Dadbol卐
@jeffcliff @Zerglingman @Leaflord @SpaceElf @InceptionState @Kang_Kong3 @MeBigbrain @WashedOutGundamPilot @nugger Is a multi generational connection to the land real? -
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卐Dadbol卐 (dadbolgainz@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 06:41:23 JST
卐Dadbol卐
@jeffcliff @nugger @Zerglingman @Leaflord @SpaceElf @InceptionState @Kang_Kong3 @MeBigbrain @WashedOutGundamPilot What's more real Jeff, an abstract idea, or the land your family has been a part of for decades or centuries?
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