Andrew Madsen
@thomasfuchs I teach programming and most of my students now are 18-25 (Gen Z). A significant portion of them don’t know how to use a computer well, having grown up mostly using smartphones. They also have poorly developed troubleshooting skills when something goes wrong.
I honestly think “natural” aptitude for computers is going to be a Gen X and Millenial thing.
Tom Fakes
@thomasfuchs It turns out the UK passed 50% inside bathrooms the year I was born - 1967.
I have no recollection of any outside facilities except for my first school which was 100 years old at that point.
Sean Murthy
@thomasfuchs Waat? You had indoor plumbing in the 80s? 😆
goatsarah
guelo
@armadsen @thomasfuchs a lot of it is apple fault for trying to kill the general computer
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mmatute
@loke @armadsen @thomasfuchs the car comparison is great. I knew my 86 VW but not so much the 2015. For Gen Z I believe they deserve time & encouragement to focus and tinker, get curious what's behind a slick UI.
Elias Mårtenson
@armadsen @thomasfuchs I'm gen-x and I think there was a misconception in the generation before mine that once kids grow up with computers they will all understand it.
That was wrong. Once you grow up with something that is established you stop caring about how it works. I got a drivers license in the 90's, and I have no idea how to fix anything in a car, and frankly have no interest in it. If I had a car in the 50's or earlier I think I would have needed to understand it. Opening the bonnet to check the oil was was just part of driving cars.
Pete Prodoehl 🍕
@armadsen @thomasfuchs I blame the people who made things too easy and hid the complexity. Not that things should be extremely difficult, but there’s got to be a middle ground.
stienman
@armadsen @thomasfuchs my expectation is that the next decade will bring AI assisted programming, and tablet first IDEs emerge and become, if not dominant, a major portion of new app development. Computing power is cheap and plentiful - inefficient and slow manual programming will only be used for specialized (low power embedded, low level) uses, everything else will just be a paragraph of an app description and a generated program.
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