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   Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@calckey.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 04:24:49 JST Chris Trottier

   • Mastodon Users

   According to @mastodonusercount@mastodon.social, there are now 12 million #Mastodon accounts.
   
   This is good news for the growth of the #Fediverse, but there's a caveat.
   
   Other than on mastodon.social, Mastodon sign-ups are slowing down. In my own estimation, the majority of Mastodon servers aren't experiencing any growth -- and many are losing servers.
   
   At one point, https://joinmastodon.org was critical to driving sign-ups amongst many Mastodon servers. But from what numerous admins tell me, sign-ups from there have slowed to a trickle.
   
   With https://home.social closing down soon, I fear this is a harbinger for more big server shutdowns. That is, unless something is done.
   
   However, Mastodon isn't the entirety of the story.
   
   It looks like *key apps are spurring more user adoption.
   
   #Misskey is now the 2nd most used Fediverse software after Mastodon.
   
   And within a month, #Calckey has nearly doubled in size -- despite the flagship server (which I admin) overcoming a few key challenges.
   
   Of course, the arrival of #Barcelona will change everything. How? I don't entirely know.
   
   But now with 12 million Mastodon users, it's time for the next chapter of the Fediverse.

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     Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@calckey.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 04:34:55 JST Chris Trottier

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     • spla :senyera: :fed: :vim:
     • Mastodon Users

     @spla@mastodont.cat @fediverse@mastodont.cat @mastodonusercount@mastodon.social The count varies. Some say ~10 million, some say ~9 million, and some counts go as low as ~6 million. No one will ever know because the nature of federation also allows for defederation and opting out from statistics counts.
     
     For example, the second biggest Mastodon server often doesn't get counted because of defederation.

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     spla :senyera: :fed: :vim: (spla@mastodont.cat)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 04:34:57 JST spla :senyera: :fed: :vim:

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     • Mastodon Users

     @atomicpoet
     that bot is not substracting users of Mastodon servers that are gone. Current Mastodon users of *alive* servers are around 7,614,000, according with @fediverse @mastodonusercount

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     Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@calckey.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 04:40:45 JST Chris Trottier

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     • spla :senyera: :fed: :vim:
     • Mastodon Users

     @spla@mastodont.cat @fediverse@mastodont.cat @mastodonusercount@mastodon.social Not really because there's some data to be gleaned from counting every Mastodon account both alive and dead.

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     spla :senyera: :fed: :vim: (spla@mastodont.cat)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 04:40:46 JST spla :senyera: :fed: :vim:

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     • Mastodon Users

     @atomicpoet right but do you agree with me that is not right counting users from dead servers?
     @fediverse @mastodonusercount

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     Leif (jantzen@mas.to)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 04:42:20 JST Leif

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     @atomicpoet @mastodonusercount
     Saying that Mastodon is dying because of lower signup-rates is like saying email is dying because fewer people are using Outlook.

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     Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@calckey.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 04:42:20 JST Chris Trottier

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     • Leif
     • Mastodon Users

     @jantzen@mas.to @mastodonusercount@mastodon.social When did I say Mastodon was dying?

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     Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@calckey.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 04:46:28 JST Chris Trottier

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     • spla :senyera: :fed: :vim:
     • Mastodon Users

     @spla@mastodont.cat @fediverse@mastodont.cat @mastodonusercount@mastodon.social 12 million Mastodon accounts isn't "real Fediverse" either.
     
     But funny enough, https://the-federation.info counts 12,276,328 Fediverse accounts, so "real Fediverse" count is not so off from @mastodonusercount@mastodon.social's count.
     
     However, that's neither here nor there. The more interesting data point is: if 12 million Mastodon accounts have been created, why is only 9 million "alive"?
     
     I have a few thoughts about this, but that's for another day.

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     spla :senyera: :fed: :vim: (spla@mastodont.cat)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 04:46:30 JST spla :senyera: :fed: :vim:

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     @atomicpoet I think we must count real fediverse, not ghost one @fediverse @mastodonusercount

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     Leif (jantzen@mas.to)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 05:04:46 JST Leif

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     @atomicpoet @mastodonusercount Sorry, that's just me extrapolating. My main point is that people/the press is confusing mastodon and the fediverse. Mastodon is equivalent to Outlook, not email. But you know that, of course.

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     Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@calckey.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 06:03:53 JST Chris Trottier

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     • Mastodon Users

     @noondlyt@mstdn.social @mastodonusercount@mastodon.social For me, it matters because I want social media walled gardens to die. No company should own the network effect of social media.

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     LAUREN (noondlyt@mstdn.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 06:03:55 JST LAUREN

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     @atomicpoet @mastodonusercount
     Honest question, why does the growth rate of the Fediverse matter? It was out there doing no growth for years. I don't think any platform will maintain the growth rate that they've had because of the Twitter break down. I want to understand why the urgency and what that does for the fediverse in the short term.

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     𝕮𝖍𝖊𝖗𝖙𝖔𝖌𝖗𝖆𝖉 (chertograd@masto.ai)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 06:44:34 JST 𝕮𝖍𝖊𝖗𝖙𝖔𝖌𝖗𝖆𝖉

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     @atomicpoet @mastodonusercount The problem with huge server maintenance costs is that most people would just rather sell their data or have ads intead of paying up monthly feed or donations.
     But servers aren't free... Yet people have gotten used to the idea of free websites, videos, blogs, chats etc. so all the voluntary payment stuff is kind of off-putting.
     Signal's constant donate-nagging is especially irritating. Telegram doesn't do that... nor does WhatsApp.

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     Jon (jdp23@calckey.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 08:22:03 JST Jon

     • goatsarah

     @goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org your experience is probably typical. Most misskey users are on misskey.io and other Japan-focused sites so mostly federate with other Japan-focused sites.

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