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   Our_Oathbreaker (our_oathbreaker@kolektiva.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-May-2023 19:19:28 JST Our_Oathbreaker

   Hey Mastodon, tired of being told to "vote strategically, not with your emotions"? Here's the truth: it's a privileged argument that only serves to maintain establishment power. Progressive candidates are silenced with false equivalences to, and threats of losing to, the Right. Meanwhile, establishment politicians keep being rewarded for moving to the Right themselves. It's time to invest your vote in what will actually make a difference - voting for a progressive candidate. Yes, even if they may not win, your vote shifts the political landscape, and can make America move Left. The politician you vote for CARRIES the political power you give them through to the next election cycle. Meanwhile, that's LESS punching power for the fat cats!!! The electoral college prevents your vote from being as significant as it should be, so voting progressive is the best way to make your vote ACTUALLY count. #ProgressivePolitics #VoteProgressive #PoliticalShift #Election2024

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     Wherz Demloots (makberberovic@kolektiva.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-May-2023 19:25:35 JST Wherz Demloots

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     @Our_Oathbreaker You have it backwards bro; it's privileged to vote for progressive candidates because you have the privilege of not being at target of genocidal forces in the USA (assuming this is the topic with 'election2024)

     The USA is literally entering the eighth stage of genocide. You are not a progressive if you think moral purity is more important than preventing that.

     Vote progressive in the primaries, vote who's most likely to win in the election. The entire world is counting on you: nobody on the planet wants to see the world's largest military in the hands of literal nazis.

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     Our_Oathbreaker (our_oathbreaker@kolektiva.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-May-2023 19:40:34 JST Our_Oathbreaker

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     @MakBerberovic endorsing incremental change just perpetuates the myth of incremental change. The vote between Biden and Trump is between an ideology of continued quiet genocide vs. loud Nazi themed genocide.

     Also, Americans don't know just how bad things are. Most of us are blind and ignorant to anything even remotely political. We are so burned out, disillusioned, and disenfranchised that most of us don't even vote. Life is shit and standing in line isn't going to change it.

     If the corrupt, self-serving, bribe-taking, establishment lapdogs want our votes, they need to champion our causes. Otherwise, the general consensus is that politicians and the rich really only exist to fuck is all over, and maybe the Dems will MAYBE throw the poor a bone. MAYBE. Otherwise we will continue to starve, suffer under rotting systems, and hope to make it to retirement.

     The other hot button topics are in our minds, for sure, but most of us are treading water, and we know politicians will never help us.

     So why waste your vote? Because orange man bad? How about a different boogyman? Voting for a non-establishment is not the same as throwing your vote away. That has always been a lie. It's a lie today. It will always be a lie.

     Your vote does not fight anything, it can only give power. The recipient is under no contract to uphold any campaign promises. Give power to people who deserve it, because the ones who don't deserve it will only help themselves.

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     Wherz Demloots (makberberovic@kolektiva.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-May-2023 21:01:50 JST Wherz Demloots

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     @Our_Oathbreaker Yeah bro you're blaming others of voting emotionally when your entire rationale is "I'd rather have a nazi in a seat instead of a bag of sand because I want to punish the bag of sand for not doing enough for me".

     YOU don't know how bad things are. This shit is literal life and death for minorities and you're jacking off about moral purity.

     You know nothing of cause and effect. You probably think that there's no difference between Biden and Trump when that's demonstrably untrue; the Ukraine invasion was to happen regardless and if Trump was in charge he wouldn't help Ukraine and that country would be completely conquered and genocided by now.

     But you don't care about vulnerable people in the USA and you don't care about geopolitical consequences just because you're mad at dems for being useless libs.

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     Our_Oathbreaker (our_oathbreaker@kolektiva.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-May-2023 21:08:26 JST Our_Oathbreaker

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     @MakBerberovic yeah, no. Your post is half straw man and half ad hominem. If you want to misrepresent me, we can't have a discussion. Bring it to the conservatives, I'm not here for mindless drama, and I'm not interested in engaging a troll anymore.

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     Wherz Demloots (makberberovic@kolektiva.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-May-2023 21:17:57 JST Wherz Demloots

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     @Our_Oathbreaker You're misrepresenting my argument way more, your responses are full of assumptions while mine are full of explaining the consequences of things going your way.