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   Technology Connections (techconnectify@mas.to)'s status on Monday, 06-Mar-2023 11:14:40 JST Technology Connections

   This comment, right here. I feel kind of bad for leading this person to this thought, but it's a conversation we need to have.

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     Technology Connections (techconnectify@mas.to)'s status on Monday, 06-Mar-2023 11:14:30 JST Technology Connections

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     • Bruno Philipe

     @brunoph Yeah, and then the duck curve would be so incredibly off-the-walls bad that the grid would collapse.

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     Bruno Philipe (brunoph@breakpoint.cafe)'s status on Monday, 06-Mar-2023 11:14:39 JST Bruno Philipe

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     @TechConnectify But wait. Let’s push this thought through. If everyone had solar with no batteries, what happens is that during the day there would be no one demanding power from the grid, meaning the grid would not pay you for your excess electricity. Therefore, your bill at the end of the month would be whatever you used from the grid during the night.

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     Christian Kent (whophd@ioc.exchange)'s status on Monday, 20-Mar-2023 14:58:45 JST Christian Kent

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     @TechConnectify I’ve been getting $100-$200 negative power bills for the past 6 months after installing 12 kW (30 panels on a quite small house from 110 years ago). It’s still summery here, by the way.

     I’m a power station though — I am encouraged to supply power after 2pm and get very rewarded for emptying my battery around 7pm (dinner causes stoves to load). I also get a negative price for feed-in around 11am-1pm because of the proliferation of solar.

     What if everyone did this?

     It would be fine. I don’t use grid power at all. I may use it for one month in the deep of winter — we will see in June.

     What if 1/2 did this?

     It would also be fine. I’m currently powering 2 other homes on my street, in a 24-hour average. At any given moment I’m powering 5 homes.

     The dumb thing to argue against is — I’m on purely wholesale power rates . Everything I pay or get paid is on wildly fluctuating market prices.

     I’m looking after my own house. Anything else I get paid is a bonus.

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