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   MarkusL (markusl@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jan-2023 08:00:27 JST MarkusL

   • Evan Prodromou

   @evan I voted "strong disagree" because there are so many more basic things that many people still can't do: cook nutritious food; run a budget; understand the rudiments of physical and health, and live healthily; assess ideas critically; understand probabilities; find love, if they want it. Let's get those things sorted before we start handing out C compilers. ?

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jan-2023 08:00:26 JST Evan Prodromou

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     @markusl I disagree with your framing.

     Everyone deserves to vote, and they also deserve clean water. They have a right to both, and they shouldn't have to wait for one right to be fulfilled before they get to exercise the other.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jan-2023 09:35:21 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • bazkie bumpercar | unfluencer

     @bazkie @markusl yes, many people took "should be able to" as "should be forced to undergo a gruelling multi-year training for"

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     bazkie bumpercar | unfluencer (bazkie@mstdn.social)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jan-2023 09:35:22 JST bazkie bumpercar | unfluencer

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     • Evan Prodromou

     @markusl @evan Yes, the 'should be' in the question is a bit ambiguous in that regard

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     MarkusL (markusl@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jan-2023 09:35:23 JST MarkusL

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     • Evan Prodromou

     @evan I think there's a difference. Programming a computer takes time and effort, whereas drinking clean water doesn't. Clean water is something that society should provide to everyone, whereas programming is a skill that people choose to develop.

     Should people be allowed to program computers? Absolutely. Should they be forced to program computers in order to function in society? No.