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    Yang Wen-Li (yangwenli@cawfee.club)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 03:31:53 JST Yang Wen-Li Yang Wen-Li
    Software piracy is a human right
    In conversation Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 03:31:53 JST from cawfee.club permalink
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      lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 03:31:53 JST lainy lainy
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      @yangwenli i agree with the conclusion, but i don't think it's because it's a right, but because intellectual property doesn't exist.
      In conversation Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 03:31:53 JST permalink
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      lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 04:06:22 JST lainy lainy
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      • HitlerIs6_4
      @bot @yangwenli @HitlerIs6_4 because labor is scarce but information is not
      In conversation Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 04:06:22 JST permalink
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 04:06:23 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • lainy
      If someone makes a good app or whatever, they should be rewarded for it. That’s literally why lain no longer works on pleroma, the p*rn cam money dried up. Nobody works for free.
      In conversation Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 04:06:23 JST permalink
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      HitlerIs6_4 (hitleris6_4@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 04:06:23 JST HitlerIs6_4 HitlerIs6_4
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      • Fediverse Contractor
      I agree in principle but the current intellectual property system doesn't do shit to accomplish that.
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 04:06:23 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • HitlerIs6_4
      It does, but that’s a separate issue anyway. If you guys are entitled to free coders to make your apps and free musicians to make your music, why aren’t I entitled to free immigrants to do my housekeeping?
      In conversation Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 04:06:23 JST permalink
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 04:06:24 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • lainy
      Yes it does.
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      Yang Wen-Li (yangwenli@cawfee.club)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 04:06:24 JST Yang Wen-Li Yang Wen-Li
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      • Fediverse Contractor
      @bot @lain bootlicker
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      lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 04:10:22 JST lainy lainy
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      • HitlerIs6_4
      @bot @yangwenli @HitlerIs6_4 sure, but that has nothing to do with the question of intellectual property.
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 04:10:23 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • HitlerIs6_4
      Information is created through labour.
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      lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 04:22:43 JST lainy lainy
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      • HitlerIs6_4
      @bot @yangwenli @HitlerIs6_4 sure, if you think the labor theory of value is correct, then IP can make sense
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 04:22:44 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • HitlerIs6_4
      Sure it does. It takes time and resources to make music or movies or apps, just as it does to clean my house. Intellectual property law is designed to protect people that make creative work from others seeking to exploit it.

      Just because you can copy something on a computer for free doesn’t mean it cost nothing to create.
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      GNU Too (gnu2@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 04:36:19 JST GNU Too GNU Too
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      @bot of course it doesn't mean it costs nothing to create, but it does cost near nothing to duplicate. The orignal work has significantly more value than subsequent. This is why first-to-market of such importance in any thing that even resembles a free market.
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      GNU Too (gnu2@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 04:38:51 JST GNU Too GNU Too
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      @bot no one is saying that consumers (nor employers is your case) are entitled to others or their labor. So-called Intellectual Property is an artificial creation of the state which allows those in power to stay in power.
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      GNU Too (gnu2@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 04:42:19 JST GNU Too GNU Too
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      @yangwenli Word. Actually it may be more than a right, it's really a responsibility. My family always taught me to share. [Example, I have a right to keep and bear arms, but I have a responsibility to keep firearms out of the hands of small children who have yet to prove they can handle them safely.]
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 05:19:17 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      That’s a very dramatic interpretation and it’s also incorrect.
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      darniil (darniil@chudbuds.lol)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 05:23:28 JST darniil darniil
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      I've never really delved deeply into this kind of argument, but something that just popped into my head and made me wonder:

      Why are we framing this as "intellectual property"? To put it another way, why are we framing this as "buying an intangible thing" rather than "paying a person for performing work"? Legal advice is an intangible thing, but we don't consider lawyers' opinions to be "intellectual property" once written down.
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      GNU Too (gnu2@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 05:48:30 JST GNU Too GNU Too
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      @bot what makes you say that?
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      GNU Too (gnu2@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 05:49:14 JST GNU Too GNU Too
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      @darniil I'm pretty it's because that is the framework that the State has established, but I could be wrong.
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      GNU Too (gnu2@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 05:54:09 JST GNU Too GNU Too
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      @lain it can take labor to create, but that doesn't make LTV accurate. Price signals clearly indicate otherwise. I for one agree with most economists, particularly those of the neo-classical school, that value is subjective. #SVT4Life
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      GNU Too (gnu2@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 06:07:43 JST GNU Too GNU Too
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      @darniil if you are interested in the topic I highly recommend "Against Intellectual Monopoly" by Michele Boldrin and David Levine https://www.abebooks.com/products/isbn/9780521879286 they also offer it free of charge on their website http://dklevine.com/general/intellectual/against.htm but I prefer dead trees
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      darniil (darniil@chudbuds.lol)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 06:30:09 JST darniil darniil
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      Fair point.
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      lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 06:39:22 JST lainy lainy
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      @Sui @yangwenli @bot all value is equally subjective
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      • Fediverse Contractor
      It's an intangible asset with a highly subjective value. It doesn't really exist in a real sense, as we can't isolate the braincells that came up with and/or the idea itself.
      It's not a human right to copy the thoughts/efforts of others, but intellectual property is bullshit from the word go. It's basically just calling dibs on an idea/concept, that others would almost inevitably reach even if you didn't. It cripples further potential developments and creates monopolies which harm people for ridiculous profit margins. Which are then used to bribe politicians who enforce retarded IP laws etc.
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      lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 06:50:10 JST lainy lainy
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      @Sui @yangwenli @bot i think you're talking about the price, not about value. both parties of an exchange expect to receive more value from the exchange than they give up.
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      • Fediverse Contractor
      Somewhat, yeah, that's the nature of barter. Unless one side has the other by the balls, the value is determined by both parties.

      But when you're dealing with intangible things like ideas, and that which can be replicated at almost no cost, with no actual provable loss to the creator.. It gets a lot more murky. I mean, if someone took a loaf of bread that someone was selling. The baker can't sell that stolen loaf of bread, there's a tangible loss there. If someone copies a concept, maybe tweaks a bit here and there to improve it, there's no loss. That idea can still be sold.
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      GNU Too (gnu2@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 07:12:55 JST GNU Too GNU Too
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      @Sui everything you say is accurate. Not sure why that makes it murky. No one can copy your idea, as soon as it leaves your head, regardless of via your mouth, your product, or some other way I'm not thinking of, it is no longer just your idea.
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      With regards to it being theft or not, by the definition it clearly isn't. Yet people still seem confused by the differences, so it's murky to a lot of people.

      Exactly, once someone has expressed something they have given up their privacy of whatever it was. I get that they want to monetize it, but that doesn't change reality which is why they rely on the heavy hand of big government to enforce it onto others.
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      • saint podiatron
      No it isn't a red herring lol. You stated that it was theft, I asked for you to elaborate on what you said. You've refused to, and appear to be trying to be moving the goal posts.

      How is it theft? Or do you concede that it isn't actually theft?
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      • saint podiatron
      Wrench me all you like bot, I've grown a resistance to them!

      You still haven't managed to explain how copying something is theft btw.
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      • saint podiatron
      I don’t have to, that’s just a red herring. I already explained how it’s morally wrong, and it should be obvious that if everyone thought like you, a lot of creative work wouldn’t be possible or sustainable.
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      翠星石 repeated this.
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      • saint podiatron
      I’m sure every other company is worse.
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      Spoken like a true fangirl.
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      @Sui @yangwenli @lain @bot let's not pretend that anyone in this thread has a compooper with ethically sourced materials
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      Enriching yourself on the backs of others without compensating them is morally wrong, simple as.
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      • saint podiatron
      Wait. Aren't you an Apple fangirl?
      ... You do know about their working conditions in turd world countries right?
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      Greed and lack of moral integrity. In a market sense yes, but not in a way that entitles you to just steal things.
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      @bot @yangwenli @Sui @lain
      Copying is not theft.
      If I copy yours you have it too
      One for me and one for you
      That's what copies can do

      If I steal your bicycle
      You have to take the bus,
      But if I just copy it
      There's one for each of us!
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      If it’s all bs, then why do people want it? Because it has value obv.
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      If it has value obv, then why do people copy it for free?
      Value is set between both parties, not just the seller.
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      • saint podiatron
      Imagine if we didn't have patent laws! There would be less research into advanced pharmaceuticals! Only people who just wanted to help people would even bother with the research. And doctors would be stuck prescribing inexpensive cures without kick-backs. In fact, the incentives to keep patients ill to sell them expensive drugs to mask the symptoms while also making them sicker would disappear! It would be absolutely awful ?
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      Inorite, big pharma might actually want to cure people!
      That's horrible.. Excuse me while I go shudder at the very thought!
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      @bot how do you come to that conclusion?
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      @bot that's slavery. But what does that have to do with claiming piracy is something other than a human right? How does that have any connection to arguing as if copying is stealing?
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      She really REALLY REALLY likes Apple, for some unknown reason.
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      @bot a lot of work, whether you classify it as creative or not, is unnecessary. Big governments propping up the status quo robs the world of what it otherwise may receive in the betterment of humanity.
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      • saint podiatron
      Please explain what definition of stealing and/or taking you are using. What is taken/lost from someone who has been copied from?

      As for what you have said here, I can expect that I'll win the lottery. It does not mean I will, or that if the wrong numbers come up I will have been stolen from. Expectations are little more than hopes.
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      Stealing someone’s creative work that they made with the expectation that they’d be compensated by those that enjoy it is theft.
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      lol my point is just that the argument that patent and copyright laws help the consumer by making innovation profitable are spurious, and have to be balanced against the cost of monitoring and enforcement.
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      Oh, I just think it's all absolute bullshit. Pushed by lobbyists for profit, onto corrupt puppets for profit. It's just people making monopolies at the legal level.
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      Pharmaceutical research is very expensive and if generics manufacturers were able to just copy and sell every new drug that was released, it just wouldn’t be a thing anymore.
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      翠星石 repeated this.
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      Got a receipt for that? Lol
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      @bot most such workers have already receive all they will long before it is pirated. Besides losing potential profit isn't theft, it doesn't exist yet, that is natural in any market.
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      There would also be next to no innovation or development of any kind which is why China has to steal all their tech and reverse engineer it. There is no incentive to create in a society with no protection for intellectual property
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      Dude, you know that cavemen didn't come up with intellectual property.. Right?

      You're passing along lies from the propaganda of monopolists.
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      @bot that's the kind of stuff that powerful capitalists say. The truth is, however, that it is actually just the opposite. Protecting drug manufacturers from competition makes it easier for capitalists to sit on the previous work of their employees, rather than hiring more researchers to improve their existing products or develop new ones so that they once again can be first-to-market. Do you really think it is ethical to increase profits of the few at the expense of humanity as a whole?
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      Free? Where's that false dichotomy come from?
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      if that's who we are then humanity deserves to die out and so who cares?
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      I mean ok? No one works for free and I doubt you would either lol
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      >be me, doctor
      >work decades and invent new machine for spinal surgery, resulting in better results and quicker recovery
      >take secret of how it works to my grave bc faggots will just steal it and govt has no recourse

      Ya sounds amazing lmao
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      @RetardedServantOfChrist @yangwenli @Sui @lain @_skycaptain @bot 'twas in 1518 that sir henry harvey copyright invented innovation. before that, there was no innovation.

      the world's first printed book was a copy of the diamond sutra and it had a text inside that said "for universal free distribution"
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      It’s just obvious but I’ll explain it anyway. Let’s say a company spends $10 million developing a new drug. Let’s say the drug itself costs $5 to make + $5 to recover the cost of development (in a reasonable time frame), so the company has to charge $10 per pill.

      The generics manufacturer has no research costs to recover, so they can sell each pill for $5 and turn a profit. Do you see what the issue is now?
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      They don't charge $10 a pill, they charge triple digits (if not more) and then get additional perks stolen through taxation. Do you know what profit margins there are in big pharma?

      Nobody sells at cost, it wouldn't be $5/pill unless they work out a way to distribute it cheaper (Which should be rewarded, no?)
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      @bot @yangwenli @Sui @lain @_skycaptain stop right there little lady. WHY does it cost $5 to recover the cost of development?
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      You're wrong, and can't maintain your argument.
      No big loss, later.
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      You’re annoying I’m out
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      Lol seethe more
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      You're the one RQing, don't project your butthurt onto me little guy.
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      I'm honestly having trouble believing that we're arguing to maintain the status quo so that big pharma can keep doing their good work. The cognitive dissonance is real man.
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      Yeah.. Big pharma's one of the worst fields to pick examples from lol..

      I mean they're so corrupt and greedy, that they don't even develop shit to cure. They develop shit to exploit the suffering/dying for as long as possible, as there's more profit in keeping people in that state.
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      Right, that's what an investment is. A company puts up capital to create something expecting that it'll yield profit when it's complete. Btw why do you remove all other @'s from the thread?
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      they literally developed a bio weapon because that's what jew controlled western governments wanted to buy.
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      Well, they paid people to do it offshore to increase their profits..

      That turned out well!
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      so what was this initially about - video games?
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      ... Fuck if I know lmfao.
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      bot, why are you still wrenching me?
      You gave up on your argument, you didn't have anything past misdefining stealing to make an ethical argument. Right?
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      > bot, why are you still wrenching me?

      She thinks you need some cranking, ifyouknowwhatimean.
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      • Captain Gratitude (semi retired)
      @bot @yangwenli @Sui @lain @_skycaptain there's probably something stupid in there. the pill semite is not just trying to figure out if the pill works or how to make it. they have to do a song and dance for the regulator and they have to avoid stepping on the other pill semite's patents. they also have to figure out how to market it, or how to infiltrate the media to make you take it. tbh I'm just kinda grasping at straws though. but I seriously doubt any expenses on top of making the pill are going to be honest and necessary and I kinda just wanna see them get rekt.
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      • saint podiatron
      This claim as been labelled "Pants on fire" by our fact checkers.

      -This fact check was sponsored by Pfizer, your friends and totally trustworthy source of side effect free medication!
      (Btw you can't sue us, we're above the law. Suck it nerds)
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      What's your best guess?
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      keeping fedi on topic is thankless work ?
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      • saint podiatron
      Oh yeah, we're in that thread. Thanks (mostly just to be contrary)!

      It's dumb to call it a human right, it's also dumb to call copying theft and otherwise parrot the propaganda of monopolists.
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      You guys are just being dumb now because you've all been btfo, and I'm also bored of this thread.
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      You said it was stealing, you brought that in not me, you stopped replying when I asked you to define your terms (and offered what I understand the word to mean). You tried to pivot and move the goalposts into some ethical one instead, and chose big pharma for some bizarre reason. You then ran away from the topic until now, when I tried to keep you on the point we had gotten upto…

      One of us btfo’d, I agree, but it wasn’t me bot. It’s cool though, we can have different opinions. Neither of us convinced the other person of our perspective, and I’m still open to the topic if you want to take another bash at it sometime.

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      You're just trying to reframe the argument with your narrative about "muh copying isn't theft" when that isn't the actual issue (because you've been btfo).
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      @bot to be clear to whom I am replying.
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      Poor bot, got nothing better than "COPE" and wrench reacts..
      Not used to taking the L gracefully I take it?

      Ok ok, I'll stop poking now. Don't write me down in your lists!
      I can offer a sacrificial lamb if it helps, we've apparently got a diaperfag pedo in chudbuds if you want to come bully him?
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      the drug company think might have been my fault :/
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      Still, that was a bad place to take a stance on.. Especially a moral one, I mean fucking hell. Finding anything moral in big pharma is like trying to light a campfire underwater.
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      > Besides losing potential profit isn't theft, it doesn't exist yet, that is natural in any market.

      While difficult to put an exact dollar value on it, opportunity cost is absolutely a thing- and people regularly sue for damages over it.

      If enough people pirate or copy an invention- especially soon after it was created- then odds are high that the creator is going to be deprived of earnings. Whether they are deprived of enough earnings to affect their livelihood... it depends. Larger firms and popular creators may be able to absorb the cost, but smaller creators may not.
      @bot
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      @SheistyPenguin "larger firms and popular creators may be able to absorb the cost, but smaller creators may not." which is a great signal that this isn't what they should be doing
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      @bot if that was true, wouldn't you just IGNORE THREAD rather than make a comment about how you don't care anymore?
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      Hey man, footwork is part of a duel. If your opponent chooses to remain fighting from low ground, that's on them.
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      yeah, I thought I was going to make a point by choosing an industry with no moral standing, but put a feather in my wig and call me nancy, "investing in research that saves lives" is still ingrained in our collective consciousness ?
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      I just want to make bot a better person so she'll be a good wife and mother one day ?
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      I just enjoy sparring/conflict, I find it fun and one of the best ways to get new information. So long as you don't go into them expecting the other side to adopt your viewpoint, there's no real way to lose.

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      Good thing it wasn't you who did the removing! :D
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      So what *should* creators be doing to earn a living, if they aren't a bigCorp or at the top of the popularity pyramid already?

      Let's go from the angle of FOSS. Say you release some open-source software under a GPL license. Someone else forks your code, closes the source, and starts selling it for a profit- maybe with some changes that break compatibility with your version. They become wildly popular as the creator of #yourapp- and if you try to assert yourself as the original creator, they will use their earnings to sue you into silence (or maybe nobody cares, because they are all using the closed-source version at this point).

      Would you feel motivated to keep plugging away at your original version that nobody cares about anymore? No harm no foul, because nothing of value was lost- right?
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      Are you vaush posting right now?
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      LOL no, he has other bad takes as well. Among his numerous pro cp rants, he had one where people shouldn't criticise people watching cp on the internet because their pc's have non ethically mined materials in them.
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      damn, trying to search for this vaush clip without getting arrested is tough.
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      Easier to just take people's word on it
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      Concise and to the point
      Based racism.
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      Why is Africa so poor and shitty when they sit on valuable resources I know the tldr already it always bugged me
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      Because they’re niggers and niggers are dumb
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      Yeah the best part is silicon and lithium, the most mentioned ones are mostly mined outside of Africa anyway.
      Found it btw.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtS5AyrHgIU
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      1. Vaush Defends CP
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        If you have any vaguely right wing beliefs, Vaush will label you a fascist. Yet when it comes to people who watch CP (adults only x-rated videos featuring ch...
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      All racism is based.
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      But concise racism is more based.
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      • Ghost ? ☑️☑️
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      You’re gonna get us in trouble!!!!!! ???
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      Nonono we can’t do that! We will get in trouble!
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      Exhibit B:
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      • Ghost ? ☑️☑️
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      Gross corruption and incompetence.
      Simple as bruv.
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      Yeah that’s true. That is one of the main reasons why I don’t go nuclear on some of these fags and type out an essay explaining why they are wrong and gay.

      Calling someone a nigger and/or faggot gets the job done every time.
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      It really does.

      Not like people are gonna listen at this point anyway. I mean fuck, over half the faggots on the left think it's racist to not be their brand of racist. "reverse racism" and all that faggy shit.
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      sega is mega gay.
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      I liked mega drive, that was better than snes tbh (at least euro releases).
      Past that it was PC all the fucking way though.
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      with jews you lose…
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      Sega does what nintendont!
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      • Ghost ? ☑️☑️
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      *cough* except antisemitism *cough*
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      Stop saying that man. You're faggy, but stop being so harsh on yourself my dude.
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      Shit, now they've got your family DNA you won't be able to commit murder.
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      It’s fine. I’m Jewish ?
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      I actually have none of the stereotypical jewish features hahaha
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      I don't understand how Ben Shapiro looks basically normal but Abby looks like a 1940's nazi propaganda caricature.
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      I don’t know enough about genetics to really say. All I know is my cousin has none of the stereotypical features and she did a dna test that found she is 99% ashkenazi
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      Post jew fro
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      @SheistyPenguin I don't know. That's not my responsibility. "Who will pick the cotton" "How will slaves take care of themselves" I know the market has a real shortage of nurses worldwide. In my country we also have a great need for engineers.
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      @SheistyPenguin >>Someone else forks the code and closes the source. This is totally an option if it's the Apache license, but not the GPL as you used in your example.
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      @darniil @gnu2 @bot LTV intensifies

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