I’m going through some legal due diligence for Owncast. And while Owncast doesn’t know who you are, isn’t tracking you, doesn’t require accounts, etc etc, it’s pretty standard legal boilerplate, in order to cover yourself, that these things are possible.
On one hand, I want to absolutely cover the project as far as liability, but on the other hand I don’t want people to think we actually do these things.
I’m probably going to err on the side of protecting the project, but I feel bad about it. Has anybody had to work through this before?
@roadriverrail I went out of morbid curiosity. It was just a smoothie place with an app to order the smoothie. The only “AI” I noticed was it took all the ingredients you selected and gave you a name for the drink. Like “Blueberry banana blast” or whatever.
This article sums it up. I particularly like how they called out how clear it was that all of their “happy customer” photos are all obviously AI generated.
A few months ago I built an #iOS and #tvOS app for watching #Owncast streams natively on your phone and tv. You could browse the directory, or add your own private servers that aren’t listed publicly. It would send you push notifications when your favorite streams went live and it all worked pretty well.
Apple has been unable to understand how the “rights” work in this case. I can’t get them to understand that people opt into the directory, and the Owncast project owns and runs the directory. Instead they see it as me “using content without rights” and “accessing a catalog without proper rights”. They asked me to provide the paperwork detailing the agreement I have with every Owncast server. Clearly that’s impossible. The number of servers that want to be public on the directory change every day, I couldn’t send them new documentation every day. I tried to explain that the directory is kind of like a search engine and the application is like a browser. A browser doesn’t have explicit rights to every webpage ever made, as that would be ridiculous. I also tried to compare it to a podcast client. A podcast client can play back any podcast without asking for permission, and there are tons of podcast directories.
They’ll approve the application if I don’t use the directory and don’t have any Owncast servers directly available from the application, however. But I’m not willing to do that as that kind of defeats the point of the convenience.
I contacted a handful of attorneys, and I was willing to fight this. I hoped if I could get an attorney to draft a document that explains, in legal terms, something that Apple’s legal team would understand it could be cleared up. But I haven’t been able to have a meaningful conversation with any of them, as none of them understand what I’m doing or aren’t interested in working with a non-corporate entity.
So I think this is dead, killed by Apple. I tried to build something cool for you all, as a side project, to make viewing Owncast streams more convenient. It’s just not going to happen and I feel bad about it.
@roadriverrail I haven’t pulled the #OldGoth card yet. I’m holding on to my Goth youth as long as I can! But it’s only holding on by a thread. A little eyeliner and huge boots will keep me young.
I want to write something funny. But I have nothing. The hustle bros have worn me down. And yes, I tried it. That’s how I know it’s a bunch of hustle bros. There’s nothing “AI” about this place. It’s just a web app where you select smoothie ingredients.
Just listened to the new @changelog episode about #opentf. A bunch of people band together, forked a major project, and found enough people who were interested in it existing and wanting to be involved.
I wish this could happen with a browser.
Sure, there's a ton of small indie browsers that are using forks of Gecko and Chromium. But I'm talking about a real organization. A real, open source first, nonprofit, who's job it is to build a browser for the people. No Google slipping in advertising features, no Mozilla taking money from Google, no Brave adding crypto. A browser from the people for the people, without corporate ownership and direct control.
It's a pipe dream. But it's a hell of a dream. I'm sure it'd be hard, but I don't think it would be impossible. Everybody needs a browser. Why can't it be treated as a public good?
@roadriverrail It's always the humans. Google lies when it tells you that the search results on the top are the most relevant, when really they're just promoted. A person wrote that software. A person writes all software. I understand you don't like the terminology, but I consider ChatGPT to be software like anything else. When this particular software is purposefully, slowly, quietly, manipulated via capitalism, people won't even realize it.
@aral I really like it! I previously was using a Vortex keyboard, and liked it, but I kind of wanted the flexibility of being able to use Bluetooth so I made the move to the Keychron. Brown switches. It also supports macOS out of the box without having to program and layers, so that was a plus too, since I will only be using it with a Mac.
What you choose to write the backend in shouldn’t impact what libraries you choose to write the frontend in, and vice versa. Also, what you write the frontend or backend in shouldn’t impact where you can host your application.
Alternatively, can anybody recommend any online options that work on an open source budget that would be able to answer specific questions on an as-needed basis?
I'm in the US (California) and Owncast is... on the internet? Nowhere? Everywhere? I don't know.
It could have branding, and documentation on how to switch, and during that day people would go out of their way to really be helpful in guiding people to switch.
Switching away from Gmail seems like a tough thing for people, so I'd really love to normalize it. This is an important part of taking the internet back from big tech. Since moving email providers falls under "someday/maybe" list for many people, I think seeing other people might make the plunge would encourage others to do so, too.