@pro@Moon that's probably part of the discussion: where does this system begin or end?
At the point of "download apps outright" we're basically talking about the app stores we already have now packaging containerized apps.
QT is already a cross-platform graphical standard that runs on everything you might realistically use -- so container-image manager, cross-platform standards for interaction/output...
But what about shared data? Intertask comms? All the security fun stuff? Fake UX stuff?
@Moon@thendrix or maybe by making it just a little bit harder than The Web, you eliminate a lot of retards and improve the code ecosystem by raising the bar.
@Moon what about recursive embedding? Can I embed containers/presentations in documents? Can I do the reverse without writing a browser or throwing one in?
What does this scheme expect from the host system -- min specs?
@Moon then we have drafts of that in Java, or something like Squeak or image-container management?
The "web" part, from my perspective, is everything between the purpose (presentation) and provision (servers.)
Distributing fat clients: what becomes of the document thing? Is a word processor / old school browser a tool distributed with the document content in your scheme?
The problem we keep hitting is that a neutral platform is built on the lowest common denominators.
@Moon What should it be? What do you imagine it will be doing?
i don't think separating data and style are wrong, but the purpose was never properly achieved. The idea was to make the web somewhat easily machine / device readable independent of style (consider Reader Mode in FF, or a braille reader.)
This didn't really end up coming to pass because most people building the web either don't care, but also, the web isn't "documents" as much as varying types of applications and "content" in DBs.
The Ellenator A conversion kit developed by a mechanic who wanted a safe vehicle for his son who had only a scooter-license. It consists of a new rear subframe/axle moving the wheels close enough together that they're the legal minimum distance to be counted as a single rear wheel.
@augustus tim suggested yesterday that platforms that censored one vax perspective while embracing another may have effectively given bad and inappropriate medical advice.
I wonder how many countries this might work as a lawsuit in?
There could be a new kind of died by suddenly in settlements...
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