Notices by 🌱@ambiguous_yelp:ahimsa.chat (ambiguous_yelp@social.coop), page 2

@SlicerDicer @anemone @feld @barrett @sun The actions of non-human animals in a survival situation have no bearing on human decision making when it comes to whether we should kill cows pigs chickens fish turkeys sheep ducks geese etc

@feld @barrett @sun Maybe because the kibble is usually made of antibiotic stuffed flesh from the flesh of animals kept in very very unsanitary conditions

@feld @barrett @sun One of the oldest living dogs was vegan Brambles look it up. "In this study, we confirm that clinically healthy adult dogs maintain health when fed a nutritionally complete, commercially available, plant-based diet with pea protein as a main ingredient over a twelve-month period." https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0298942

@sun @feld @barrett dk who they are don't care, I'll just migrate to the word sentientist or antispeciesist if you want to play it like that

@barrett @feld @sun No I'm vegan

@feld @barrett @sun Yes there is we can look after them, we made this ethical bed we should lie in it

@barrett @feld @sun They trusted you and you betrayed them, why? To satisfy a bloody ritual celebrating around their corpse?

@feld @barrett @sun Species don't suffer individuals do, when you say "its bad to let them go extinct" you are employing a kind of objectification where the individual bird doesnt matter, they only matter in this worldview as a member of the species because the species is an object to humans to extract resources from rather than a collection of individuals

@feld @barrett @sun Also they probably won't go extinct anyway people look after pigs chickens turkeys as non human animal companions, and many more will be liberated to sanctuaries

@feld @barrett @sun Some cultures do FGM or circumcision, some cultures say that women are inferior to men, some cultures say that bullfighting is ok, that eating dogs is ok, some cultures say that being gay is a crime, if your excuse for flesh eating is that some cultures allow it you have to excuse all these examples as well

@feld @barrett @sun Turkeys are thinking feeling creatures with personality memory and preference they are "they" not "it" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrI4uPTOPX8

@sun @feld @barrett 2 wrongs don't make a right, I cannot reason with an octopus but I hope I can reason with you, and how does that justify impaling the mouths of random fish who may not have hurt anyone anyway

@sun @feld @barrett They (not it) are in a survival situation, humans in the same situation have turned to cannibalism

@feld @barrett Would you want your mouth impaled with a hook? Why is it ok to do to fish but not humans? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byTxzzztRBU

@feld @delta @gh0stz0x I wish I2P had a broader appeal bc every user is a node which I would imagine makes it harder to censor

@feld @delta @gh0stz0x Can't pluggable transports be used to circumvent tor bans

@feld @delta @gh0stz0x They can't block Tor because the feds use it and even if they do theres things like bridges and the Snowflake/Pluggable Transports but at least you have to admit its harder to block tor plus a whole host of decentralised relays that anyone can run at home than it is to block a single centralised server

@gh0stz0x @delta @feld SimpleX is also not easily blocked by Signal but like Signal it has quantum resistant encryption seemingly unlike Delta Chat

@delta Does it have persistent IDs? like a profile address? Simplex.chat essentially allows you to have "a burner phone for every contact" allowing for maximum deniability should your contacts be compromised

@gh0stz0x @delta Does it have quantum-resistant encryption like Signal and Simplex? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UrdExQW0cs