Notices by Alfred M. Szmidt (amszmidt@mastodon.social), page 2

@ablatedsprocket It is a different, entirely incompatible language ... you cannot write a trivial(!) program in #Lisp, and have it run in #Scheme. To the point, why is #Javascript not a #C dialect?

@PacoVelobs

Why is the @fsfe not commenting about the recent election of the @osi?

@kirschner why aren't you holding the @osi accountable?

#fsf #osi #FreeSoftware #OpenSource

@neurovagrant This reminds me of discussions at work ... prefixing or transmutating words so that the contain "AI". I wish I could call sick for a year ....

@ablatedsprocket I've never heard anyone say that #Emacs #Lisp was a "subset" of #CommonLisp, seeing that #EmacsLisp pre-dates #CL, and comes from a entirely different branch of #Lisp, namely #MACLISP. Lisp is indeed a family of languages, but Scheme is not part of it.

@PacoVelobs

For those not in the known, @contrarian@mstdn.plus has been harassing and bullying respected community members within the #FOSS #FLOSS #FreeSoftware #OpenSource community.

@contrarian Those results are not unredracted. I realize you're a troll, so have a *plonk*.

@osi @ed

@osi the #OpenSource movement cannot be secure as long as the @ed and the @osi refuses to publish the unredacted election 2025 results. How can the community trust you when you hide in the shadows? Previous #OSI members, directors are calling on transparency! https://codeberg.org/OSI-Concerns/election-results-2025 #FOSS #FLOSS #FreeSoftware #OpenSource

@PacoVelobs Sure, like Javascript is a subset or a superset of C ....

@PacoVelobs #Emacs #Lisp is a #Lisp, yes.

@PacoVelobs #LispMachine Emacs has no #GNU #Emacs in it.

@PacoVelobs The first is an editor, the second is a #LispMachine.

#Emacs and #GNU #Emacs are not entirely the same thing.

When people say "no politics" -- most often than not they mean "no off-topic garbage". In #FreeSoftware projects, that means .. we talk about software, and technical stuff -- not other crap, if you want to talk about other crap, you can do somewhere else. Discussions unrelated to the topic .. are off-topic.

@danirabbit @lukeshu I don't know what other people think, what annoys me occasionally, is that how people bring in their other political issues (with whatever genuine positive intentions they have) is very much USA-centric, sometimes specifically USA-cultural-hegemonist.

As a non-US citizen who never went there, it is a bit offensive when people expect that I should have the same political priorities as Americans.

@nicemicro it’s extremely necessary division. When these folks complain about “politics” what they always mean is that they don’t want marginalized people to participate openly and safely. We can’t build healthy diverse communities and include people who are against equality and human rights. Supremacists are of no value

@lukeshu

@lukeshu While there are for sure bad faith actors in this space, I think when people complain about "politics in free software", they actually mean "politics other than the politics about free software".

I believe that it is possible to have a wide range of political persuasions that lets you derive the computing freedoms. Or, you can be just simply selfish and want to get these freedoms for yourself.

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The #FreeSoftware movement is fundamentally a political movement advocating for folks' freedoms.

To say that politics have no place in the Free Software movement is to say that the Free Software movement shouldn't exist.

But it's an attractive line to those looking to exploit the #FOSS software that the movement produces while subverting the movement itself.

@ocdtrekkie Try contacting the sponsors, specially if you have a personal or business connections -- ask them to drop out, and demand that the @osi release the results. #FOSS #FLOSS #OpenSource #FreeSoftware

@osi misses the point.

@bkuhn @richardfontana

@ed Is it as reprehensible as not being accountable and hiding election results that have been published since they came about? Where are the results of the 2025 election results? https://codeberg.org/OSI-Concerns/election-results-2025 #OpenSource #FreeSoftware #FOSS #FLOSS @webmink

@streganil It is fully related. The @osi are not being a responsible member of our community, and making them accountable is reasonable.