@JoshuaACNewman@dukope I think the Mac pointer came from Lisa. The Lisa pointer is, as far as I can tell, identical to the Mac one. I doubt Kare could have designed it; she was hired in early 1983, and the Lisa UI had been finalized by that point.
My guess is that the original pointer was designed by Bill Atkinson. He was one of the folks who visited PARC, so he'd seen the Alto pointer, and he also designed the Lisa UI (he invented the menu bar, too) https://www.folklore.org/Rosings_Rascals.html
@yacc143@JoshuaACNewman@dukope Going by the alt text of that image, those icons are from X11R3, which came out in 1988. The Apple Lisa came out in 1983, Mac was ’84. (I notice the wristwatch, pencil, i-beam, and spraycan icons are in there too; those were definitely by Susan Kare.)
Somebody did get some very detailed inspiration from a third party here, but it was not the rotten fruit company.
@mcc there was somebody on there trying to justify this as a GM car dealership not letting random people sell Ford shirts in the lobby.
I thought earnestly comparing a site that they were formerly claiming should serve as "the town square of the world" to a car dealership was a rather spectacular self-own that nobody on that thread seemed to grasp.
@Gargron@sdw Agreed. I've always preferred apps that stick to the OS appearance.
I think there's something to be said for long-term UI patterns. I've been using Affinity a lot, and much of the confusion I'm having comes from (1) UIs that are similar to Photoshop's but do different things, or (2) UIs that are different from Photoshop but do the same thing.
The fundamentals of desktop GUIs—windows, File/Edit menus—haven't changed in close to 40 years.
Designer, artist, iOS Notes limit pusher. I know the difference between a "font" and a "typeface", but I'm not obnoxious about it.A note: while I CW politics, and avoid offensive imagery entirely, I don't typically CW things like faces or food. My art is weird, often includes eyes/faces/masks, and can be (I'm told) somewhat eerie.