It's odd that earlier, the AP reported that the president was killed but there hasn't been a corroborating report on that and talking head journos haven't picked that up either. Wazzup, AP?? ♲ mastodon.social/@VOANews/11246…
@HistoPol@GreenFire Ah. Well, going along with Netanyahu's extremism might not prevent a take-over by Iran but the Sunni alliances would, and here's a reminder that Turkiye IS officially a Western nation AND the Levant was already part of its Ottoman territory...and I'm sure it would positively drool over the prospects of regaining it back. Long story short, there are a number of ways Israel could be taken over, but Iran isn't one of 'em.
@TheEconomist@GreenFire I'm also sure @HistoPol did not mean merely England, @Lassielmr because England was a small albeit ruling member of the broader British Empire even when it changed the name to something less imperial (United Kingdom). As the Empire lost colonies, it wasn't much of an empire but it was still more than just England alone.
@HistoPol I agree with you in principle, @GreenFire , but much more extensive study of the situation is warranted because you said this:
For example in this situation, if we abandon Israel that could result in making that region into a new Iranian radical Islamist caliphate with strong ties to Moscow.
...which leaves out the Abraham Accords with Sunni Arab nations that don't like Shiite Iran either. Should Abraham Accord member states successfully evict Iran's Islamists, they could very well install their own favorite Wahab-flavored Islamists which range from the Taliban to ISIS. And it's the Wahab Sunni nations that ARE US allies.
#Netanyahu has for decades been a grand master of letting US presidents look like school boys
Don't leave out AIPAC, which has dominated both American political parties. AIPAC courts the GOP but let's not forget that a former Dem party chair was Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, foursquare in support of the Zionist project.
@anubis2814 People that young in the 80s were Gen Xers, not Boomers. And Boomers can't be stereotyped regarding what men are supposed to look like, so here's a reminder that Harvey Milk was a Boomer.
There's a whole lotta cockeyed goin' on in this thread. The US backed the Shah Pahlavi and no one can call that a democratic regime. Religious dictators is what anybody gets with violent revolutions--just ask the people who rose for the Arab Spring. What the Shah and the Ayatolah learn the hard way: when it comes to the hijab or any other article of clothing, nobody gets to tell a woman what she cannot wear, or what she must absolutely wear. It's the women that rose up against both.
There's absolutely nothing Shiite v Sunni going on in Palestine either--it's where Sunni backed militias unite with Shiite backed militias over their common enemy, Israel. Under the Abraham Accords, the Sunni regimes basically threw Palestinians under the bus, but the militias they back are still aimed at Israel. I've heard the BS about how the Abraham Accords brought this on, but it was Netanyahu's wingnut "coalition" and settler violence that brought it on.
Netanyahu knew he could expect what he got when he raided the Al Aqsa Mosque using Hamas as the excuse. Settler violence is Israel's version of Manifest Destiny and the average Israeli is against this. On top of that, Netanyahu claims he didn't see it coming, failure of intelligence yadda yadda. If you believe that, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn I could sell you.
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