Notices by chihuamaranian (chihuamaranian@tech.lgbt)

@thomasfuchs

I understand the resistance to indirectly causing the user distribution to be more centralised, but this solves way more problems than it causes.

- people can move

- when the biggest server has scaling issues and lag due to size, the technically literate will move

- having a big instance helps the developers make mastodon more scalable. In a world where the "medium instances" have 10x more users than today, this is helpful trail blazing.

- having a large mastodon-first instance is a good hedge against corporate entities joining the fediverse and flooding it with their existing userbase. We want a large "fediverse-native" population to push back against corporate EEE strategies.

@msh @thomasfuchs

First off, thanks for the well thought out reply.

I dont think I disagree with much of the substance of your post. Your concerns are valid.

I do think the scale of these drawbacks is up to interpretation and that is where i believe the majority of our differences of opinion sit.

To your "users can move is a user hostile stance" point, I agree that you are correct today. I hope (and believe) we will reach a point where migration is such a non-event that this concern goes away.

As for vertical vs horizontal scaling, I believe there is more to be gained from vertical scaling than you are considering. Performance that can handle millions of users on a single instance will also lower the hosting bills on a hundred-user instance.

I also think that there is a finite amount of horizontal scaling that is possible without fragmenting the network. Imagine the extreme: putting every user on their own instance would itself burden the network.

@Mrfunkedude

This might sound odd, but when my timeline has a wave of German speakers wishing everyone a "Guten Morgen" I know its well past my bedtime and I should put my phone down.