We are testing #deltachat with 8 users since Friday with a self hosted server.
The experience is excellent and people are happy, especially with secondary device setup.
So far we ran into a few small issues.
- one user had pushes on one device delayed (its push. Remember apples guarantees on delivery…) - a gif didn’t post but only the first frame (iOS) - taking a photo doesn’t add it to the message, using the gallery works (Android)
@delta I keep trying other messengers, including xmpp which I also love, but keep coming back to #deltachat it's so snappy, clean and I never have any issues with keys/encryption ... it just works!
dComms is a project by eQualitie that provides a curated and secure deployment of decentralized communication tools for civil society including #Mastodon#Peertube#Element#DeltaChat etc. #dComms creates small-world networks for reliable communications in low-bandwidth environments, resistant to censorship and shutdowns.
We are now actively working on server deployments in partnership with NGOs in 5 countries and help local communities #migrate to the Fediverse
@reallylazybear I hate to be the bringer of bad news, but you are bound to get problems, it seems they require you to re-connect with the phone from time to time, it seems it doesn't really support multi-device without a dependency on a main device, for an app that has good multi-device without phone numbers check #ArcaneChat (https://arcanechat.me) and #DeltaChat
#Signal took a huge bet that running on US big-tech toxic infrastructure is fine because its groundbreaking and industry-shaping cryptography is crafted to neutralize it and keep users safe.
But is it really feasible to live on toxic infrastructure in the longer run?
#deltachat rather takes a bet on the massive e-mail server network and interoperable protocols, and on #chatmail servers which enforce message encryption and metadata-minimization.
Did not know this, but you don't need to care about up reputation for #deltachat. 🤯 Makes complete sense why, as it's not using email like a regular email Case in point, very much still outstanding. 😎
@feld@delta I thought the blog post was good, and two points really stuck out: 1) For ease of adding contacts, since you can scan barcodes between smartphones, Deltachat might as well be another Signal or WhatsApp (for how convenient this is). I had to admit that scanning a barcode to add a contact is becoming more commonplace by the day - kudos to #deltachat for supporting it. 2) When migration to another server was mentioned as being so easy, thanks to AEAP - "Advanced Email Address Porting" - that seriously blew my mind. I jumped out of my chair and exclaimed something to the effect of "shut the front door!"
@feld another point people miss: unlike on #Signal, #WhatsApp, #Telegram, etc where there is a central server watching all the social graphs of the whole network, in #DeltaChat and other decentralized platforms like #XMPP what a server can see is pretty limited and fragmented, We started talking about activists btw, and having the freedom to choose a server instead a central server potentially collaborating with your enemy is a killer feature
I can change my email address to another random one in the client -- even to a different chatmail server -- and all my chats will keep working. As soon as you send a message to your peers they will update to your new identity. This is a feature called AEAP -- Automatic Email Address Porting and hopefully soon we'll see a mechanism implemented that automatically enables forwarding of your old address to your new address (to not lose messages from people who don't know about your new identity yet), and then #DeltaChat can enable functionality to automatically rotate you through new anonynmous identities transparently.
@k3fnb just because #DeltaChat uses the email protocol you are making some wrong assumptions that only apply to classic email, sure if you go doing activism using #gmail that is not safe, but to use Delta Chat, you don't need to provide ANY personal data / metadata and hence can't leak metadata, you can create an anonymous account for a protest and throw it away afterwards, if cops get your phone they get random contacts not phone numbers unlike in #Signal etc.
Last #deltachat releases introduced stable #p2p group membership not found in any other messenger. Members can add/remove peers also while being offline, and when everything comes online again, everyone has the same consistent membership view. We formalized and ran a simulation model using #TLA+ (invented by Leslie Lamport of vector clock fame):
@feld@collectifission@davidbenque@sirjofri#deltachat for many years did not have push notifications on android and worked fine on most phones. In some cases people had to enable a permanent background notification to keep IDLE alive. But most often, messages are received in the background on Android without push.