@wulfhart @mike welfare is a good thing. Its caring for those less fortunate. As the church one of our biggest failures has been allowing the government to take over our responsibility of being the primary provider of welfare.

That being said the amount of fraud in food stamps is so minimal that it actually costs the government more money enforcing it than they did even with that. The utility of a gift is always greatest when the receiver rather than the giver makes that decision. I don't think government welfare should exist, but still, I think too many people make a big deal about the waste of these programs, while not giving 2 shakes about the waste of military budget which is exponentially larger, and that's before you even take into the consideration of the morality of helping people vs. that of killing people.