@SuperDicq yeah having not used gnome three I don't have any of that context but having switched to gnome 40 after years of slowly losing my marbles on tiling WM bullshit it impressed me a lot with how usable it is, in particular with how little customizable it is

software customization is just a distraction imo. why spend 4 hours getting it "just right" when i can install something that already works and won't tempt me into fiddling with it? i don't get the appeal. also good god the maintainability issues

i'll never understand the fetish some ppl have for taskbars. just a waste of space 97% of the time (and that's a conservative estimate)