novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️ (anarchopunk_girl@kolektiva.social)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 23:21:11 JST

@enby_of_the_apocalypse @ember @DesasterTristan "I feel like transmasc and transfem being not necessarily tied to agab is a good idea." This is the core of what I fundamentally disagree with. Trans* labels are a very important thing to have to describe the experience of being assigned a gender different than your actual gender, and trying to remove the assigned gender component of that means that the terms would necessarily have to become about *gender expression* instead of *gender identity*, which is what it seems like you and the original poster want to do, and it would also erase a really crucial term to be able to communicate the experience of trans people. Thus, if we got rid of the meaning of being trans being linked to assigned gender then we just have to invent an entirely new word to describe the experience of having an assigned gender that's different from your actual identity, because there is still a difference between gender identity and gender expression, and so I don't really see how that helps. Like I don't know how I can reiterate hard enough that trying to remove the assigned gender component of the trans labels just reduces them to gender expression because then you can't talk about that change in gender identity anymore. I think something better would be to try to create a new term that includes all people who change their gender expression to be more feminine, and a term that includes all people that change their gender expression to be more masculine, which could serve the purpose you're looking for without being problematic.