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Also bear in mind that there aren't any writings left from Pythagoras himself, but all are filtered through the lens of later traditions such as Platonism (eg. Plutarch). Personally one of my favourite supposedly rogue Pythagorean is Empedocles. His poetry has been a source of inspiration for me since high school.

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Fragments_of_Empedocles