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    pwm (pwm@darkdork.dev)'s status on Wednesday, 14-May-2025 02:22:27 JSTpwmpwm
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    @adiz @feld this statement is technically inaccurate. Xmpp and Delta chat have the same federated model, so architecturally they are equivalent.

    However, a key pain point for me for xmpp is that media attachment is out of band with regards to the protocol, occurring over http. It has all the same privacy concerns that media uploaded to the fediverse does. As media sent over Delta chat occurs in band (email attachment) and is end-to-end encrypted, it is strictly better from a privacy perspective.

    However, from a normalfag perspective, interface remains the chief detriment of using xmpp over other solutions. The xmpp ecosystem has been waiting for "someone else" to make a good, functional, attractive client forever. It is not a good argument to say that all it needs is a client that has not been developed in 20 plus years. One client that is a functional clone of something that normalfags are used to like telegram or Whatsapp, is an enormous selling point for people not concerned with, or unable to understand arguments for privacy.

    I like xmpp. I like Delta chat. But there will be no one true instant messaging solution until a plurality of users exist that brings it to dominate the market. Currently, those are all proprietary networks tied to services like Facebook or well, mostly Facebook I guess.
    In conversationabout a year ago from darkdork.devpermalink
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