@SuperDicq @thatbrickster >That's simply not true. Morals existed way before the bible did.

yes, morals existed for as long as humans existed, and applies to people who don't know of christ, it applied back then, and still applies to communities today that haven't heard of Christ.
people who do Good and do not become hypocrites (for example, machiavellanists), implicitly follow Gods will, even if they are not aware.
God looks favorably upon them, because they followed their Conscience (The Holy Spirit) and wished to do true Good.

Even Contrition (Essentially, Internal Regret from performing an evil Action, which, if you feel regret from the Action, God forgives you) applies.

according to the Lumen Gentium of the Vatican (while this is not the bible, it is derived from the bible, and i am of the same opinion for this one) Article 16 states:
"Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience."

Christians do not claim that only through God can the Good come,
i do not claim that virtues only exist through the knowledge of God, through the virtue of Free Will, every Person can *Choose* to do Good or Evil.

of course, Judeo-Christianity, added extra Morals, which work off and on top of, and help define the Morality and the definition of Good and Evil, Judaism through the Commandments and the Law of Moses, followed up by Christianity expanding on them (through the new Covenant of Christ) to define Good and Evil as something that doesn't arrive from the External Action, but more importantly, the internal drive for that Action.

what i meant by this, is that modern Western Atheism (which btw, is the active rejection of God, seperate from Agnosticism, which is either the lack of knowledge of the concept of a God, or the impartiality to the existence of the concept of a God) still uses Christian Morality as a base to work off.
the New Atheist Explanations as to what "Good and Evil" is is laughable, if i asked an Atheist why an action is good or bad, the Answers are Vague, the good action of the person could be truly motivated by a conscience, or it could be motivated to be seen and acknowledged as good (something that Christianity looks down upon, and one that many Atheists themselves acknowledge as bad, but is often rationalized with "a good deed is a good deed").

at the best of cases, they admit that they helped a stranger because they felt empathetic to them, but also, because they have to mask themselves in a constant facade of "Higher Wisdom", they could say, "this is better for society", but this is not true trust built here, now you internally set an expectation for a good change to happen, but this is not how it works, and also set THAT as the reasoning for why people are good, do i help a stranger because i expect to get something out of it here?

no. i help him because he, as a human, is my brother in Christ, and as a human, he has the likeness of God, the highest virtue is to Love a Brother as a Brother, to share the pains that he has and help carry them, and to share this love and Joy i experience and to see others smile is the highest calling, the fulfillment of Holy and Primal Love (Agape). if i am to Love God, and Choose to serve him, then i will also Love and Serve the ones with his Likeness.

a devout Christian knows the Good and Evil when he sees it, if there is the Evil Action which helps thousands of the Poor, then i will not do the Evil deed, i do not have to rationalize my actions with the consequences, the world is broken, and there is plenty of injustice, a good deed could end up in more suffering, but i refuse to be a part of the injustice and then proceed to exalt myself, that is an abomination, not just to God, but to the Human as well.

>I have the exact same opinion about the bible like any other religious text from any other religion. I have not studied each religion individually. I feel like that would be a waste of time.

then you should acknowledge that you do not know anything about the bible, if you see disinformation someone posted about something they don't know about and call them out, and then you you yourself tell your opinion, and implicity state that you are "knowledgable" about a topic when you aren't, then that makes you a hypocrite, i really don't mean to make this out as if i resent you or something, i still like the tetos, and i won't force you to believe something either (that is a sin, and also i don't agree with it).
hold onto your opinions, but don't state them as if they are fact when you don't actually know much about it, even if you don't agree with the field of Theology, and have no respect for it.