@JollyWizard @Zardoz @Shadowman311 @ThatWouldBeTelling I think it is fair to say that viruses"are incredibly tough to vaccinate against, and that risk is always present. That's not a statement that makes people happy— terrain theory bros will say I'm ignorant for believing in viruses, medical system enioyers will say it's dangerous or that people who *truly understand it* have already made the risk calculation in favor of the treatment. I still favor bacterial vaccines and treatments (antibiotics ) because the cause and effect is so direct and low tech that we can see it with a primitive microscope in our living room. Fact is the contamination risk is just so high with viral stuff since you're trying to grab sections of something in the modern method. At least with bacterial ones you can see what's there under a microscope.