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@douglasvb @camless @MsMerope @ai6yr
Several years ago as I recall, the forest service had a big crown fire that was unstoppable until...it hit forest land managed by one of the Apache tribes (white mountain?). The crown fire dropped to the ground because of the tree spacing and became controllable. I don't remember the name of the fire.
My Dad said the rule of thumb he used was the forest was thin enough if you could see 100 yards through the trees.