@branman65 @BowsacNoodle @SuperSnekFriend they have this like weird cope, everything in life is incentive driven.

one of the things i do notice is the constant implication of the lack of free will, that humans cannot resist, they failed to resist, nevertheless they DO know it deep in their hearts that they must fight through.
but instead of deciding to keep their dignity, they proclaim that they either do not have a chance to redeem themselves, or that they never were able to from the beginning and they start to parrot that all who suffered and struggled like they did must have gone down the same path that they did.

and when they notice that there were others that struggled but still managed to keep their dignity intact, they get offended, the mere sighting of a man who is pure at heart and resolute despite his hardships attacks them more than anything, which is why they cope with the idea that it's "all pretend".

they must deny the existence of free-will at every opportunity because if they believed in it, then they would have to open up the cracking dam that is their regrets, and beyond that they must face the path to grow from then on.