@aral It's not possible to ignore crimes against humanity #warcrimes of a war party, provided that every member state of international agreements respects the laws As you can see, there are nations breaching rules, so to achieve progress in peace talks, it takes serious efforts of negotiation. If you think, talking means surrender, like the EU expresses it, then you have to continue war - which means against Russia, to lose. If you get rogue like US aginst UN, then you can't call for justice.