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    feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 08:51:48 JSTfeldfeld
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    • Marcin Mikołajczak
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    • kajer
    @kajer @elfin @mkljczk Cloudflare literally exists to make sure that they only serve requests to blessed clients. Anything that appears slightly abnormal is denied for security reasons.

    We can agree all day about the morality of this and how it is an affront to the design of the internet and a direct assault on free software and freedom of choice for users, but that doesn't move the needle.

    The bad actors ruined this for us all and Cloudflare fulfills an important role for many businesses. These businesses are not going to lose any more money than what amounts to a rounding error because some people using a Firefox fork couldn't visit the website.

    Unfortunately a lot of the internet that has no business case to use Cloudflare other than their DDoS protection get caught up in this. I would say we need to educate them to stop using Cloudflare but what are the realistic alternatives?

    Look at what happened to Codeberg recently -- tried to not use Cloudflare as an ethical choice and got taken down by a pretty small attack.

    On the modern internet you better have more bandwidth than your attackers or a good DDoS protection service.
    In conversationabout 3 months ago from friedcheese.uspermalink
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