@Humpleupagus @LostInCalifornia You know, on the topic, is kind of astonishing the extent to which people watching the news will tell you that you are wrong about shit you can see out your front door. I kept hearing that LA was an apocalyptic hellscape and I looked out and didn't see it and mentioned this and all the Steve Bannon viewers told me I must be lying, and now this chick is telling me the same shit from the opposite side.