@Suiseiseki @Breaking911 @alyx > Yes, those are the poison that cause obesity (including liquefied foods like soft drink).

Several diseases can also precipitate it, including influenza (it can cause long-term damage to several relevant organs). Better infection control and social standards of propagation mitigation would help a lot.

> That is intentionally quite light on to minimize side-effects - the human immune system can be pushed much harder without any issues in most individuals.

Most of the diseases vaccinated for very young also have horrible long-term effects on unvaccinated young children that catch them (and several of them like measles are very contagious).

e.g.

> Suppression of the immune system by measles lasts about two years and has been epidemiologically implicated in up to 90% of childhood deaths in third world countries, and historically may have caused rather more deaths in the United States, the UK and Denmark than were directly caused by measles

sauce: https://doi.org/10.1126%2Fscience.aaa3662