@sickburnbro @threalist His position, from what I can tell, is actually a pretty sneaky one. Sneaky in the sense that it gets him through the gatekeepers (mostly), but probably gets the antivaxxers (including me) what we want. They vigorously attack him knowing damn well that he has never once said he is against vaccines, but are deathly afraid of opening the books. It's that usual government supremacist attitude that kicks in. Don't you dare expose to the world how untrustworthy we are, because then you will destroy trust in government. No shit, Sherlock, but trust is earned, and if you have been untrustworthy, you don't deserve trust. It's in actual government records that are public (which I can probably dig up if anyone is interested), from the 1970s, that no opinion against vaccines must be allowed to propagate, *even if true*.

He has repeatedly said he is not antivaxx, but that he just wants 'safe' vaccines. He said he fought to get mercury out of fish (which I think he considers a lost cause, now), but no-one ever called him anti-fish. But he's also hinted that he doesn't think any vaccines can be made safe. So by demanding transparency and actual studies using actual placebos (rather than deceptively using other vaccines, or a shot with all the same adjuvants and other ingredients, but no antigen), and demonstrating the dangers conclusively, the crap will be taken off the market. He knows damn well that honest research will kill trust in vaccines, at least as concocted in the past 150+ years, as well it should.

Vaccine R&D and continued release of new shots won't be prohibited, but once the public gets a taste of what's been done to us, much like the USAID revelations, they'll demand more actual testing and transparency. It's a Pandora's Box that can't be closed.

There are a lot of idiots in the 'health freedom' moment that I've stopped paying attention to because they think this admin, including RFK, Jr. has pivioted. It might be true, but they are making assertions without understanding anything about strategy. I don't think there's been a pivot at all. Anti-Big Fooders and Anti-Vaxxers at each others throats, so-to-speak, when they don't need to be. Look at Trump's EO on MAHA put out yesterday and it doesn't say a word about vaccines. If it did, it might kill the movement in its crib. But it's rife with comments like 'transparency' and 'bring honest science back', etc. Again. Get it by the gatekeepers, but get to the destination you want.