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    Adam Beer (adambyte@dragonscave.space)'s status on Friday, 31-Jan-2025 12:07:22 JSTAdam BeerAdam Beer
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    @mima Your discussion of the different Jewish ethnicities/lineages is quibbling over definitions while missing the actual point. When I call Israel a "Jewish ethnostate," I'm taking about the mindset of, "We need a state specifically for this group of people," which is the same as what motivates ethnostates. It doesn't matter whether or not Jewishness is technically an ethnicity.

    Overall, you seem to be accusing me of painting with too broad a brush, saying that the word, "Zionism," has historically referred to a variety of perspectives, of which I'm only criticising one. But that's the only perspective I've ever seen it refer to, so I still think it's fair. Actually, wait: this is also just quibbling over definitions!

    I don't know where you got the idea that I think Jewish people shouldn't be allowed to determine their own destiny. I thought I made it very clear that I was saying that their historical inability to determine their own destiny does not give them the right to impose that same dreadful condition upon others, most notably Palestinians. There are, of course, many Jewish people who also publicly take this position, but again, I've only ever seen them referred to—by both themselves and others—as, "Jewish anti-Zionists."

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